From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EYMZp-00087J-Te for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:51:18 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA5BoAJD024007; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:50:10 GMT Received: from smtp030.tiscali.dk (smtp030.tiscali.dk [212.54.64.105]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA5BlUep019673 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:47:30 GMT Received: from kloeri (62.79.108.58.adsl.ynoe.tiscali.dk [62.79.108.58]) by smtp030.tiscali.dk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id jA5BXjh1018912 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:33:45 +0100 (MET) Received: by kloeri (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:47:29 +0100 From: kloeri@gentoo.org Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:47:29 +0100 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two Message-ID: <20051105114729.GB14844@kloeri> References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <436C8951.4010008@gentoo.org> <20051105111006.GA14844@kloeri> <436C9798.5020805@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <436C9798.5020805@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id jA5BoAKn024007 X-Archives-Salt: 8ccfb300-280f-474e-9bd5-0458e1fee6b5 X-Archives-Hash: 3339027ca07961f4cab0ff99926d97b5 On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:29:28PM +0100, Grobian wrote: > kloeri@gentoo.org wrote: > >You must not have read the [#forums-whining]_ reference as that makes = it > >quite clear that existing methods isn't adequate. Even if you think th= e > >apache maintainers made lots of mistakes you can't really fault us for > >not trying to get the news of config changes out to all users. >=20 > I haven't, that's correct. However, a reference should be a source for= =20 > additional information. A small exerpt or recap of that thread is not=20 > in the GLEP. Also, [#forums-whining]_ was not referenced in the quoted= =20 > part, the reference only follows later on. >=20 > Going into answering your question, the thread suggests for instance an= =20 > RSS-feed with this info. Also the GLEP mentions 5 distinct sources, of= =20 > which I personally think at least two will be effective for a certain=20 > group of people. >=20 > That last thing was what I was aiming at. For some it might work quite= =20 > well if the apache2 upgrade stuff (as sent out on gentoo-dev) was=20 > communicated through gentoo-announce. Hence my doubts on whether "[the= y=20 > are not] particularly effective" is a general statement that applies to= =20 > any situation. >=20 If we were only aiming at a certain group of people there would be no need to change anything. The apache announcements reached lots of users but still left a large chunk of users in the dark. Moving the news to -announce or some RSS feed wouldn't change anything as the basic problem with these methods is that people have to actively search out important news instead of news getting pushed to them. Regards, Bryan =C3=98stergaard --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list