From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EXxVM-0002hF-Fg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 09:05:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA494HEx018810; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:04:17 GMT Received: from callisto.cs.kun.nl (callisto.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.75]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA492XD6030326 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 09:02:34 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by callisto.cs.kun.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE66B2E800B for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:02:53 +0100 (CET) From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 10:02:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.92 References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <20051104011106.780b46bb@snowdrop.home> <436AB84B.4010406@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <436AB84B.4010406@ieee.org> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8991190.XVsHoZma1r"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200511041002.53538.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: b095c9b1-e269-4e86-8a8a-15999f95a00f X-Archives-Hash: 138e21b18285eff6c451adbb2ed15187 --nextPart8991190.XVsHoZma1r Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 04 November 2005 02:24, Nathan L. Adams wrote: > I have read it, and I find it lacking; thus the comments. Or are you > claiming that the idea of having a central website like errata.g.o with > GuideXML-ized migrations guides is in your GLEP? Its not. I'm proposing > adding that as the definative source of the errata, and feeding it to > other places (emerge --news, mailing lists, forums, GWN) as desired. I agree with Ciaran here. Emerge --news should be authoritive. I'm not=20 opposed to erata.gentoo.org, but it is easy to generate from the tree. If=20 there would be a master format to generate both from, that would also be=20 OK, but news items in the tree is probably the best answer. And it is=20 easy to display when pretending. One could even give a warning (in=20 advance) when a user is trying to update an affected package (perhaps=20 this should be an extra header item). > > I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states "It is not > reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email > client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their system. > In particular, this means that any markup to be parsed must be in a > very simple format." > > *ALL* of the official docs are GuideXML; Gentoo *expects* users to have > a web browser by default. Otherwise a vast majority of users would > never get Gentoo installed in the first place. The "lightweight" > requirement appears to just be your way of subverting the current > documentation standards (because of your XML hatred). No, gentoo expects people to have access to a webbrowser. But not all the=20 time. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to make a nice printout=20 of the handbook at the office, and then take it at home to install a nice=20 new gentoo box. > The news directory shouldn't the main source of the migration guides; > the website should be (one central page that can feed other sources). The website should not as it a pull source of information. It requires=20 users to actively acquire the information. What is worse is that some=20 users might not update for a prolongued time (6 months). At that time=20 they will not find the information in the erata list anymore. But they=20 will get the RELEVANT news delivered by emerge/enews. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart8991190.XVsHoZma1r Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDayO9bKx5DBjWFdsRAvX4AKDTEZPMftHUPtXlS/PzQwaqnfkBiACfd3Al 8mLvBjrxos1qwoMfFHVLq/8= =tTAW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8991190.XVsHoZma1r-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list