From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EX2hy-0000mG-NM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:26:15 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1KP6De017057; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:25:06 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1KM45o007565 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:22:05 GMT Received: from bmb24.med.uth.tmc.edu ([129.106.207.24] helo=localhost) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EX2dw-00005m-D3; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:22:04 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:22:04 -0600 From: Grant Goodyear To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] quixote currently unmaintained Message-ID: <20051101202204.GC20491@bmb24.uth.tmc.edu> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@gentoo.org References: <20051031214102.GA22683@bmb24.uth.tmc.edu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051031214102.GA22683@bmb24.uth.tmc.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 9f724fba-2a68-4f9d-9349-a3311d495d31 X-Archives-Hash: de3490271f2a094671c2744646e76e7a --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, it seems that I should have provided many more details. Quixote is "A simple but powerful Web development framework for Python programmers". It's very low-level, but at the same time it's exceedingly sane. When I added quixote to portage it was just going through its 1.0 release. I'm still not entirely comfortable handling webapp-based ebuilds, but quixote itself is not too difficult to maintain by itself. In practice, though, people using quixote are likely to want to any of the following support packages that have sprung up over the last year or two: durus (object database), dulcinea (quixote/dulcinea helper modules), scgi (alternative to fast-cgi), and Sancho (Python unit-testing framework). Many of the packages have ebuilds in bugs, but to date nobody has been willing to maintain them. I'm not that interested in web applications myself, so I'm unwilling to invest the time necessary to make sure that Gentoo has a functional quixote + helpers framework. *Shrug* The result is that Gentoo's support for quixote is horribly inadequate. =20 My view is that if a package is in the tree, then there's an implicit understanding that we're maintaining it. If we're not, then I really think it should go away. (Note, by the way, that this argument is completely unrelated to whether or not we should have upstream-unmaintained packages in the tree. As long as a Gentoo dev is willing to look after those packages when necessary, then I see no reason we shouldn't have those packages.) -g2boojum- --=20 Grant Goodyear=09 Gentoo Developer g2boojum@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76 --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDZ85sptxxUuD2W3YRAsZdAKCBkS8DPWTU2n70ElYj11M0gI6QLwCdE5NZ fbHHgKTriDIP9D8i1/yzPiM= =ngNs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xgyAXRrhYN0wYx8y-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list