From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EX0lU-0005dH-P5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:21:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1IKSBM029059; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:20:28 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1III2L001892 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:18:19 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EX0iA-0003Mo-Av for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:18:18 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EX0i8-0007Yq-Gl for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:18:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:18:14 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Message-ID: <20051101181814.1db4d8d5@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org> References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> <43675C83.4010005@gentoo.org> <20051101122657.2d06d9e5@snowdrop.home> <11710324670.20051101133924@gentoo.org> <20051101124806.422976f6@snowdrop.home> <1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.99-rc2 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Tue__1_Nov_2005_18_18_14_+0000_bQqSlN.Te_MEpP+5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 5deeaae7-2854-4d63-806f-816b46a76af6 X-Archives-Hash: 7b14bed64e31da5509c0468617f2f2de --Signature_Tue__1_Nov_2005_18_18_14_+0000_bQqSlN.Te_MEpP+5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:47 +0100 Jakub Moc wrote: | What do you mean "they aren't tied to ebuilds"? I don't really | understand what this feature should do then, it seems. Once again, | what's wrong with reusing emerge --changelog mechanism for displaying | this kind of information? We make changes that have scope other than ebuilds. | I'm not particularly happy with idea of emerge as a newsreader | really, IMHO we should display relevant, vital upgrading information | *when relevant*, not to inform users about upgrades that they are not | interested in in the least. Which is what my proposed GLEP does, at least as far as we can determine automatically. Yes, occasionally this will mean giving, say, mysql 4.1 upgrade instructions to people who plan to use only mysql 4.0, but then, if we didn't give them the news, most of them wouldn't know that they don't want to upgrade. And it doesn't turn emerge into a news reader. All portage does is deliver the news. How said news is read is a different issue. | And please, keep the thing simple so that I can be done in reasonable | amount of time and does not follow the destiny of einfo/ewarn logging | (3 years and counting). Of course. Hence why I'm proposing something easy and workable, and not suggesting some magic new framework that will solve all existing problems (including world peace). --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature_Tue__1_Nov_2005_18_18_14_+0000_bQqSlN.Te_MEpP+5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDZ7Fo96zL6DUtXhERAtQXAKDKFVHB6m67BU2MzptEZa18xsT3/wCeMMZw ZqtMBI7XDKBCUaXvcUaYD0I= =S+FR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Tue__1_Nov_2005_18_18_14_+0000_bQqSlN.Te_MEpP+5-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list