From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:18:14 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051101181814.1db4d8d5@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org>
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:47 +0100 Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org> wrote:
| What do you mean "they aren't tied to ebuilds"? I don't really
| understand what this feature should do then, it seems. Once again,
| what's wrong with reusing emerge --changelog mechanism for displaying
| this kind of information?
We make changes that have scope other than ebuilds.
| I'm not particularly happy with idea of emerge as a newsreader
| really, IMHO we should display relevant, vital upgrading information
| *when relevant*, not to inform users about upgrades that they are not
| interested in in the least.
Which is what my proposed GLEP does, at least as far as we can
determine automatically. Yes, occasionally this will mean giving, say,
mysql 4.1 upgrade instructions to people who plan to use only mysql
4.0, but then, if we didn't give them the news, most of them wouldn't
know that they don't want to upgrade.
And it doesn't turn emerge into a news reader. All portage does is
deliver the news. How said news is read is a different issue.
| And please, keep the thing simple so that I can be done in reasonable
| amount of time and does not follow the destiny of einfo/ewarn logging
| (3 years and counting).
Of course. Hence why I'm proposing something easy and workable, and not
suggesting some magic new framework that will solve all existing
problems (including world peace).
--
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm
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Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-01 1:51 [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 2:19 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01 2:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:25 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 2:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 3:02 ` Alec Warner
2005-11-01 3:21 ` pclouds
2005-11-01 2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2005-11-01 2:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 2:39 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01 8:25 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-01 11:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-01 12:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 10:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 10:45 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:13 ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-01 12:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 11:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Myers
2005-11-01 11:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:16 ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 12:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:39 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 13:32 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 18:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2005-11-04 0:45 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 0:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:05 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:25 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-06 19:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-01 13:34 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2005-11-01 13:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 14:07 ` Re[2]: " Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-02 20:49 ` Eldad Zack
2005-11-01 14:38 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 0:54 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 13:54 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:23 ` Christian Birchinger
2005-11-01 18:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 19:20 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 19:36 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-01 19:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-01 20:36 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:16 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-01 18:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 16:22 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 18:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 21:57 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 22:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 1:29 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-02 0:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 11:26 ` Michiel de Bruijne
2005-11-02 14:19 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-02 18:33 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-02 22:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-03 9:59 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 14:26 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 21:30 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 21:33 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-05 0:13 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:59 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-05 0:11 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-05 1:30 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-03 13:54 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 14:24 ` pclouds
2005-11-03 13:49 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 19:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 0:29 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 0:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:02 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:24 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:36 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:46 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04 1:53 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 2:30 ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-04 21:37 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 1:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:55 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 3:06 ` Qian Qiao
2005-11-04 9:06 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:21 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:04 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:05 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:46 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 17:08 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:29 ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-04 17:29 ` Jon Portnoy
2005-11-08 3:16 ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-10 20:29 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 1:33 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-04 1:41 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 1:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 1:43 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 9:12 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 12:32 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-04 13:34 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:03 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 1:43 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04 1:52 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 9:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:07 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 1:50 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 5:30 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 21:50 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-06 22:11 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 9:02 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 13:38 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 15:55 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-07 10:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:19 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:02 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 15:58 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:41 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:57 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:07 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 17:15 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 2:08 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-04 2:18 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 5:44 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 8:32 ` John Myers
2005-11-04 9:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 10:15 ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-04 13:18 ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 13:46 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:27 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 16:08 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 8:21 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-04 9:55 ` Tres Melton
2005-11-04 16:35 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-04 16:52 ` Grobian
2005-11-04 17:10 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 19:34 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 14:37 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 18:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 19:12 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 20:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 22:00 ` Jan Kundrát
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