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Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 02:24:40 +0000
From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:16:30 -0600 Brian Harring <ferringb@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 01:51:25AM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > ``Posted:``
| >   Date of posting, in ``dd-mmm-yyyy`` format (e.g. 14-Aug-2001).
| >   Mandatory.
|=20
| Don't have a good arguement as to why it should be added, but utc=20
| time seems like it should be included.

Ok. I nicked the Posting: header from GLEPs, which only use dates. Are
posting times relevant for news items?

| > ``Display-If-Installed:``
| >     A dependency atom or simple package name (for example,
| >     ``<dev-lang/php-5_alpha`` or ``net-www/apache``). If the user
| > has the package specified installed, the news item should be
| > displayed.
|=20
| You're going to run into issues with slotmoves for longterm...
|=20
| I'd personally rather the translation/updating of the atoms specified=20
| for this field does *not* occur in portage clientside, iow it's=20
| handled server side.

Would adding news/ to the "list of stuff that must be changed when you
do a package move" suffice?

| TODO: Display-If-Profile: ?
|=20
| I'd like to kill off the deprecated profile file someday...

Ok.

| > News Item Display
| > -----------------
| >=20
| > Whenever relevant unread news items are found, ``emerge`` will copy
| > the news file into ``/var/lib/gentoo/news/``.
|=20
| Expand this to address N repo's all delivering their own news=20
| please...

If we have proper named repos... /var/lib/gentoo/news/repo_name/ ? What
are the plans for multiple repositories exactly?

| Any reason this must be moved locally?  Why not just track some id=20
| from the news article locally, instead of copying it?
|=20
| Yes this makes things a bit more funky for reading tools... but imo,=20
| the duplication is a bit wasteful.  Not a huge issue, but worth=20
| considering imo.

I was aiming for "really really easy to write clients that read news",
and "really really easy to read news files using cat or less and rm".

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Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
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