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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 02:24:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051101022440.20e46c5f@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051101021630.GD10657@nightcrawler>

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 20:16:30 -0600 Brian Harring <ferringb@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 01:51:25AM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > ``Posted:``
| >   Date of posting, in ``dd-mmm-yyyy`` format (e.g. 14-Aug-2001).
| >   Mandatory.
| 
| Don't have a good arguement as to why it should be added, but utc 
| time seems like it should be included.

Ok. I nicked the Posting: header from GLEPs, which only use dates. Are
posting times relevant for news items?

| > ``Display-If-Installed:``
| >     A dependency atom or simple package name (for example,
| >     ``<dev-lang/php-5_alpha`` or ``net-www/apache``). If the user
| > has the package specified installed, the news item should be
| > displayed.
| 
| You're going to run into issues with slotmoves for longterm...
| 
| I'd personally rather the translation/updating of the atoms specified 
| for this field does *not* occur in portage clientside, iow it's 
| handled server side.

Would adding news/ to the "list of stuff that must be changed when you
do a package move" suffice?

| TODO: Display-If-Profile: ?
| 
| I'd like to kill off the deprecated profile file someday...

Ok.

| > News Item Display
| > -----------------
| > 
| > Whenever relevant unread news items are found, ``emerge`` will copy
| > the news file into ``/var/lib/gentoo/news/``.
| 
| Expand this to address N repo's all delivering their own news 
| please...

If we have proper named repos... /var/lib/gentoo/news/repo_name/ ? What
are the plans for multiple repositories exactly?

| Any reason this must be moved locally?  Why not just track some id 
| from the news article locally, instead of copying it?
| 
| Yes this makes things a bit more funky for reading tools... but imo, 
| the duplication is a bit wasteful.  Not a huge issue, but worth 
| considering imo.

I was aiming for "really really easy to write clients that read news",
and "really really easy to read news files using cat or less and rm".

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-01  2:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-01  1:51 [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  2:08 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01  2:19   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01  2:20   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  2:25     ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01  2:37       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  3:02       ` Alec Warner
2005-11-01  3:21         ` pclouds
2005-11-01  2:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2005-11-01  2:24   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2005-11-01  2:39     ` Brian Harring
2005-11-01  8:25 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-01 11:56   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01  9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-11-01 12:21   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 10:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 10:45   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:13     ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-11-01 12:20       ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01 11:23   ` [gentoo-dev] " John Myers
2005-11-01 11:58   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:16     ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-01 12:26       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 12:39         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 12:48           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 13:32             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-01 18:18               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  0:45                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  0:56                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:05                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:19                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:25                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-06 19:41                   ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-01 13:34             ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2005-11-01 13:43               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 14:07           ` Re[2]: " Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-02 20:49           ` Eldad Zack
2005-11-01 14:38         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  0:54           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 13:54 ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:23   ` Christian Birchinger
2005-11-01 18:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 19:20     ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 19:36       ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-01 19:44       ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-01 20:36         ` Andrej Kacian
2005-11-01 14:16 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-01 18:26   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 16:22 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 18:25   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-01 21:57     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-01 22:16       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02  1:29         ` Brian Harring
2005-11-02  0:52           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-02 11:26           ` Michiel de Bruijne
2005-11-02 14:19           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-02 18:33         ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-02 22:34           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-03  9:59             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 14:26             ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:39               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 21:30                 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04 21:33                   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-05  0:13                 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 18:59               ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-05  0:11                 ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-05  1:30                   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-03 13:54         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 14:24           ` pclouds
2005-11-03 13:49     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-03 19:16       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  0:29         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  0:42           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:02             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:11               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:24                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:31                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:36                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:46                       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04  1:53                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  2:30                           ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-11-04 21:37                             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-04  1:48                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:55                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  3:06                           ` Qian Qiao
2005-11-04  9:06                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:21                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:04                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:05                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:46                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 17:08                             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:29                               ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-04 17:29                               ` Jon Portnoy
2005-11-08  3:16                               ` Luca Barbato
2005-11-10 20:29                       ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04  1:33                   ` Brian Harring
2005-11-04  1:41                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  1:51                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04  1:43                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  9:12                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 12:32                       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-04 13:34                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:03                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  1:43                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-04  1:52                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  9:15                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:07                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04  1:50                   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04  5:30                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 21:50                     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-11-06 22:11                       ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04  9:02                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 13:38                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:05                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 15:55                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-07 10:24                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 14:19                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 14:02                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 15:58                     ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 16:41                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-04 16:57                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 17:07                           ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 17:15                             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  2:08               ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-04  2:18                 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04  5:44                 ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  8:32                   ` John Myers
2005-11-04  9:33                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-04 10:15                       ` Thierry Carrez
2005-11-04 13:18                         ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-04 13:46                         ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04 14:27                         ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 16:08                           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  8:21             ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-04  9:55           ` Tres Melton
2005-11-04 16:35       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-04 16:52         ` Grobian
2005-11-04 17:10           ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-01 19:34 ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04 14:37 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 18:48   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 19:12     ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-04 20:10       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-04 22:00     ` Jan Kundrát

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