From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EWiuN-0000AV-8R for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:17:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9VNGMCn022536; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:16:22 GMT Received: from ns1.osuosl.org (ns1.osuosl.org [140.211.166.130]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9VNDQrQ026099 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:13:27 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB49EBF2BC for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18530-45 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from washington (washington.osuosl.org [140.211.167.4]) by ns1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B050BF294 for ; Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: Corey Shields To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting Important Updates To Users Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 15:20:40 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <200510301642.39469.chriswhite@gentoo.org> <1130777404.10549.16.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <436651B8.2020108@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <436651B8.2020108@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart5237635.WFFY7JEQ8o"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510311520.42970.cshields@gentoo.org> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at osuosl.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=-999.0 required=5.0 tests= X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: b82017c7-24a7-46e3-89f9-1bdfc4de3d3e X-Archives-Hash: dc7e0256fe27fd23db38d2779be8e1e9 --nextPart5237635.WFFY7JEQ8o Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 31 October 2005 09:17 am, Lance Albertson wrote: > Implementing --news will take time. Implementing more news on our site > now takes little work and can be easily done. Outside of these two > options, what is better? I'd say a constant reminder in the GWN would be > helpful. Maybe we could add a big news warning in the next minor portage > update that when you tells you about the new news features (perhaps a > big einfo after you upgrade. > > I know thats not the best solution either, but I dont' foresee --news > becoming a reality for a while. I disagree that beefing up website news will get the word out. The people = who=20 complain to me personally about major changes that they did not know about= =20 are the type of people who are not checking this sort of thing anyway. The= =20 last time I remember paying attention to the website news myself was to=20 double check a post that I had made.. long ago. Something like --news is bound to reach every admin and sounds like the bes= t=20 way to go. Adding more news to the site is just going to push news that=20 really matters off the front page quicker and cause possible problems with= =20 more and more people committing broken xml news items. =20 What are going to be the criteria for posting such a news item? We could h= ave=20 20+ posts a day just saying "Version bump, w00t!". As for the earlier comment on this thread: "Yes it will, because when a ne= w=20 users visits the front page for the first time to install Gentoo, they will= =20 see the important notices there and put a note in the back of their heads=20 about it." (Chris White) What are you going to do to inform the people=20 upgrading their system that they installed 3 years ago? Sure, they may hav= e=20 read the front page when they installed it. Are they going to want to have= =20 to read a web site on -every- upgrade? no. =2DC =2D-=20 Corey Shields Gentoo Linux Infrastructure Team Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees http://www.gentoo.org/~cshields --nextPart5237635.WFFY7JEQ8o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDZqbKpq/4o6MEFFMRAsXNAJsE0MU8B+qSd5x16GiIRV3sn3rzaACgzIks ECy9/XdWYhTXBOqBVFTaZVc= =/DRd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart5237635.WFFY7JEQ8o-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list