From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EUh9J-0002dB-Lz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:00:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9Q8xxvP029221; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:59:59 GMT Received: from callisto.cs.kun.nl (callisto.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.75]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9Q8wBju009919 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:58:11 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by callisto.cs.kun.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB9F2E80D7 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:58:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies. Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:58:22 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.92 References: <1130199485.1413.3.camel@Darkmere.darkmere> <1130270701.8911.89.camel@alto> <20051025213812.3ab52c01@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20051025213812.3ab52c01@snowdrop.home> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1327315.xVlftCziWd"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510261058.22810.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: b5990f23-665b-4fae-b5e3-5c8a51382f2b X-Archives-Hash: 2c6c90ea2e5162a2dd61ed2215ddd5aa --nextPart1327315.xVlftCziWd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 25 October 2005 22:38, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:05:00 -0400 solar wrote: > | You two are the ones trying to distort the meaning of RDEPEND=3D > | simply because the depclean is broken for the cases you make. > > Not at all. The 'R' in RDEPEND means 'needed after the compile is > done'. However, for the sake of keeping the tree small, naming the > variable STUFFTHATISNEEDEDAFTERTHECOMPILEISDONEDEPEND is clearly > impractical. I agree here. If you don't want packages to be pulled in because of header= =20 files, you need support for that (perhaps in the form of subpackages, or=20 a useflag). But IF the header files of a package are installed one should=20 be able to assume that they keep on working. Even after buildtime-only=20 dependencies have been removed. In the case of embedded it is clear that what in binary distributions is=20 part of the development package (.la files, static libraries, header=20 files) is not desired at all. To break dependencies to only strip away=20 some of the headers seems to me a half solution that breaks a lot and=20 doesn't solve the problem either. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart1327315.xVlftCziWd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDX0UubKx5DBjWFdsRAtcxAKDhJr1kY4x4K9BGo8njszXM6BeFcACeOtz9 jaB+vxcX6TYMGyYNmgRi5UA= =PLhi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1327315.xVlftCziWd-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list