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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies.
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 10:46:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510261046.21897.pauldv@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1130217512.19065.27.camel@localhost>

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On Tuesday 25 October 2005 07:18, Ned Ludd wrote:

> > Now, the other side of the story. It's not true runtime dependence
> > because it's not required for programs to run, only to compile. And
> > the way I see it, things required for programs to compile are by
> > definition DEPEND rather than RDEPEND.
>
> exactly.
It is required to use all parts of the ebuild. header files are also 
runtime parts.

>
> emerge -B virtual/libc busybox
> ROOT=/mnt/foo emerge -K virtual/libc busybox
>
If you wan to do this, you'd probably have to change the libc ebuild to 
have an embedded (or binary-only) useflag that would not install the libc 
headers (and thus not need the kernel headers).

> # if this were to pull in linux-headers on the second step into the
> $ROOT then all embedded support would be shot.

No, embedded might be rethought to do things properly.

>
> +1 vote to ignore Spiders mail and revert such changes that put headers
> in rdeps as it has undesirable side effects to existing supported
> projects.
>

+1 vote to take spiders mail seriously and solve the problem properly. 
First by putting the headers in RDEPEND and adding a new variable in a 
new EAPI version to solve it for new ebuilds.

Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-26  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-25  0:18 [gentoo-dev] Reminder on dependencies Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
2005-10-25  4:37 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-25  5:12   ` Joshua Baergen
2005-10-25  5:18   ` Ned Ludd
2005-10-26  8:46     ` Paul de Vrieze [this message]
2005-10-25  5:29   ` Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
2005-10-25  5:51     ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-25  6:01       ` Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
2005-10-26  8:45         ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-10-25  7:49   ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2005-10-25 12:15   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 14:09     ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-25 16:03       ` John Myers
2005-10-25 16:39       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 10:48         ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-25 17:55         ` solar
2005-10-25 19:16           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 19:28             ` Olivier Crete
2005-10-25 20:05             ` solar
2005-10-25 20:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-26  8:58                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-10-27  0:15                   ` Luca Barbato
2005-10-27  7:36                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-10-27 13:40                       ` Olivier Crête
2005-10-27 14:14                         ` Ned Ludd
2005-10-25 16:19   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-10-25  9:28     ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-25 16:41       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 17:16         ` Joshua Baergen
2005-10-25 17:25           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 17:37             ` Joshua Baergen
2005-10-25 17:41               ` Joshua Baergen
2005-10-25 17:44             ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-10-25 17:55               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-25 16:55       ` Grant Goodyear
2005-10-26  9:04         ` Paul de Vrieze

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