From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ESgXe-0006Jr-0i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:57:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9KJrssB018525; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:53:54 GMT Received: from sa5.bezeqint.net (sa5.bezeqint.net [192.115.104.19]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9KJppJw007781 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 19:51:52 GMT Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by sa5.bezeqint.net (Bezeq International SMTP out Mail Server) with ESMTP id 8DF8933CA9 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:52:00 +0200 (IST) Received: from sa5.bezeqint.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sa5 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06765-06 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:51:57 +0200 (IST) Received: from alpha.danarmak.homelinux.net (unknown [81.218.66.40]) by sa5.bezeqint.net (Bezeq International SMTP out Mail Server) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:51:57 +0200 (IST) Received: by alpha.danarmak.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 1011) id 195CA188381; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:17:20 +0200 (GMT-2) Received: from beta.danarmak.homelinux.net (beta.danarmak.homelinux.net [10.0.3.86]) by alpha.danarmak.homelinux.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B97618837B for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 22:17:11 +0200 (GMT-2) From: Dan Armak Organization: Gentoo Technologies, Inc. To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:54:11 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.92 References: <200510202116.47326.danarmak@gentoo.org> <52ZKB4.136721026EZE64L@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <52ZKB4.136721026EZE64L@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1303985.Ku7bmOya0s"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200510202154.12094.danarmak@gentoo.org> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bezeqint.net X-Archives-Salt: 132581cf-13d8-4283-a14e-40a8af51451a X-Archives-Hash: 3adb6c241640d1c113d678531390ef1e --nextPart1303985.Ku7bmOya0s Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 20 October 2005 21:48, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On 20/10/2005 21:16:47, Dan Armak (danarmak@gentoo.org) wrote: > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:58, Matthijs van der Vleuten wrote: > > > On 10/20/05, Dan Armak wrote: > > > > To solve this issue it would have to be an on-by-default flag, i.e. > > > > 'noxserver'. I know some people are strongly against nofoo flags. > > > > > > What about an off-by-default 'xserver' flag? > > > > It wouldn't solve the problem at hand. > > > > Without any flag at all, the user needs to 'emerge xorg-x11' manually to > > get eg KDE to run locally. With an off-by-default flag, he needs to set > > it on manually, _before_ installing KDE, to get an xorg-x11 server. As > > long as he needs to do something manually, explicitly, it should just be > > an 'emerge xorg-x11', which after all is a very simple operation. > > Maybe I'm being stupid, but I don't understand why a user would need to > emerge xorg-x11 manually when doing 'emerge kde'. Surely somewhere in > kde's dependency graph the X server is called up in RDEPEND? An X server > is clearly a run-time dependency. > > Like, konqueror RDEPENDS on qt which RDEPENDS on xorg-xserver, or whateve= r. No, KDE (like all X11 apps) only needs the client X11 libs and headers. It = can=20 then contact a remote X11 server over the network. Now that the client libs and headers are available in separate ebuilds,=20 there's no reason for KDE to depend on the server ebuild, so it won't. =2D-=20 Dan Armak Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) Public GPG key: http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key =46ingerprint: DD70 DBF9 E3D4 6CB9 2FDD 0069 508D 9143 8D5F 8951 --nextPart1303985.Ku7bmOya0s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDV/XkUI2RQ41fiVERAoxAAJwJnFELD0YvaBPrJkxh0aEqXqV1hgCfRAf2 6R1OuItDPdNZDFsd+oPlaU4= =OrrS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1303985.Ku7bmOya0s-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list