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From: Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 17:49:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510201749.20436.danarmak@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200510201623.28687.mike@gaima.co.uk>

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On Thursday 20 October 2005 17:23, Mike Williams wrote:
> On Thursday 20 October 2005 14:26, Dan Armak wrote:
> > To keep the current behaviour, the kde metaebuild (and gnome and the
> > other WMs) would have to depend on xorg-x11, which strictly speaking is
> > unnecessary. Opinions? How can we educate the users to manually 'emerge
> > xorg-x11'? Personally I'm in favor of updating the docs, making a big
> > announcement on all channels, and preparing a nice bug to close
> > duplicates against.
> >
> > We'll also need to educate them about xorg-x11 not installing fonts any
> > longer. The way I understood your metabuilds.txt, 'emerge xorg-x11 kde'
> > would result in an unusable system without any fonts at all...
>
> As a fairly average joe user when it comes to all things X, I feel it would
> be best to keep the current X USE flag behaviour, i.e. a full working
> Xserver. The same goes for xorg-x11, or virtual/x11.
That's not the meaning of the flag. Its meaning is 'enable optional X11 
support'. Usually (almost always) this means client X support.

For apps that really have optional support for the xorg-x11 server, a new USE 
flag might be introduced.

> KDE needs some X libs, so obviously must always depend on them, but having
> the X USE set should call in a complete working server.
>
> For packages that can work with, or without X, and should give the option
> to have a full server, or not, perhaps a new USE flag is needed? Xlibs?
No. That would change the meaning of the X USE flag. We could add a new USE 
flag, but we shouldn't rename existing ones.

In any case, the decision of optional clientside X support (the X USE flag 
today) should be completely separate from the decision of installing a local 
X server.

-- 
Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux developer (KDE)
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-20 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-20  7:11 [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1 Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20  8:37 ` Simon Strandman
2005-10-20 12:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-10-20 12:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
2005-10-20 13:26 ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 14:41   ` Olivier Crête
2005-10-20 15:23   ` Mike Williams
2005-10-20 15:49     ` Dan Armak [this message]
2005-10-20 15:28   ` Luca Barbato
2005-10-20 15:54     ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 18:43       ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 19:25         ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 19:31           ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 19:35           ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-10-20 19:35             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-20 19:42             ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 19:57               ` Mike Frysinger
2005-10-20 20:01               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-10-20 20:13                 ` Mike Owen
2005-10-20 20:19                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 21:40             ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-10-20 22:17               ` Alec Warner
2005-10-20 18:58       ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2005-10-20 19:16         ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 19:48           ` Kevin F. Quinn
2005-10-20 19:54             ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 21:24               ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-10-20 21:08             ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-10-20 19:49           ` Kevin F. Quinn
2005-10-20 18:37   ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 19:08     ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 19:17       ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 19:44         ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 20:22           ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 21:06         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-10-20 21:14           ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 21:37           ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-20 14:46 ` Ben Skeggs
2005-10-20 15:28   ` Herbie Hopkins
2005-10-20 15:55     ` Ben Skeggs
2005-10-20 15:58 ` Dan Armak
2005-10-20 18:39   ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-10-23  4:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill

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