From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EScJg-00037r-LR for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:26:53 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9KFN63U008948; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:23:06 GMT Received: from jason.comodo.net (firewall2.comodogroup.com [195.92.253.138]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9KFKvIF022959 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 15:20:57 GMT Received: (qmail 24606 invoked by uid 1114); 20 Oct 2005 16:23:32 +0100 Received: from robbie.comodo.net (HELO robbie.comodo.net) (192.168.30.202) by jason.comodo.net (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:23:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 30952 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2005 16:23:31 +0100 Received: from gimli.brad.office.comodo.net (HELO gimli.home.gaima.co.uk) (192.168.0.165) by 192.168.30.201 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2005 16:23:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 24023 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2005 16:23:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Oct 2005 16:23:31 +0100 From: Mike Williams To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] modular X - 7.0 RC1 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:23:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4357432E.2020009@gentoo.org> <200510201526.47620.danarmak@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200510201526.47620.danarmak@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510201623.28687.mike@gaima.co.uk> X-Archives-Salt: 7828d0ac-881d-41eb-9841-aec3b543bbdc X-Archives-Hash: 8c766bd4769b6efae9d5ad442b778952 On Thursday 20 October 2005 14:26, Dan Armak wrote: > To keep the current behaviour, the kde metaebuild (and gnome and the other > WMs) would have to depend on xorg-x11, which strictly speaking is > unnecessary. Opinions? How can we educate the users to manually 'emerge > xorg-x11'? Personally I'm in favor of updating the docs, making a big > announcement on all channels, and preparing a nice bug to close duplicates > against. > > We'll also need to educate them about xorg-x11 not installing fonts any > longer. The way I understood your metabuilds.txt, 'emerge xorg-x11 kde' > would result in an unusable system without any fonts at all... As a fairly average joe user when it comes to all things X, I feel it would be best to keep the current X USE flag behaviour, i.e. a full working Xserver. The same goes for xorg-x11, or virtual/x11. KDE needs some X libs, so obviously must always depend on them, but having the X USE set should call in a complete working server. For packages that can work with, or without X, and should give the option to have a full server, or not, perhaps a new USE flag is needed? Xlibs? -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list