From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EGNWt-0001JV-GM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:13:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8GL7RwR028145; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:07:27 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8GL4KUr006621 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:04:20 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EGNSb-0008Kk-1E for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 21:09:29 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EGNTC-00067U-RU for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:10:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:10:04 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] first council meeting Message-ID: <20050916221004.57e1b9f7@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <200509161659.56603.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <20050915205149.GB22270@vino.zko.hp.com> <200509161633.13867.vapier@gentoo.org> <20050916214420.25408844@snowdrop.home> <200509161659.56603.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Signature_Fri__16_Sep_2005_22_10_04_+0100_GyUhOEaT7ruRaY=4"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: acc16416-8337-4230-b3c0-c92689b591aa X-Archives-Hash: 506ef76803c2452ec10f9b3b596ca26d --Signature_Fri__16_Sep_2005_22_10_04_+0100_GyUhOEaT7ruRaY=4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:59:56 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: | baselayout is an example, any package can be used here (although not | many are as critical) |=20 | i'm saying that the maintainer may have a certain idea of when the | package is ready for stable (a target feature set, working out | certain quirks, etc...). your current hard view does not allow for | that. for example, i had an arch maintainer one time mark bash-3 | stable before base-system was ready for it (readline, baselayout, | etc... were going to be stabilized together). i smacked them hard | for it, but if we went with this hard view, it would have been | perfectly acceptable behavior. -mike There is nothing in this view that says "consulting the package maintainer is not part of the stable decision-making process for arch teams". --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature_Fri__16_Sep_2005_22_10_04_+0100_GyUhOEaT7ruRaY=4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDKzSu96zL6DUtXhERAqoXAJ9ZRF3xlWlTCg2O8fc31T9+X8WGFACgrDHS 39HzKqJQx/QNRV3en4JfKFw= =S21O -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Fri__16_Sep_2005_22_10_04_+0100_GyUhOEaT7ruRaY=4-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list