From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFEJ0-0007kb-Sp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:10:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8DH5a7G005250; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:05:36 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8DH3uAI020217 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:03:57 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EFEGl-0000vE-7n for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:08:31 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EFEHQ-0008E5-Jy for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:09:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:09:10 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC Message-ID: <20050913180910.1012fb27@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20050913162232.GA18592@cerberus.oppresses.us> References: <4325D12A.5050601@gentoo.org> <1126560585.7339.5.camel@localhost> <20050912220029.GX9414@bmb24.uth.tmc.edu> <200509122159.32575.vapier@gentoo.org> <43265B48.6050506@ieee.org> <4326A271.1020903@gentoo.org> <4326C737.1020704@gentoo.org> <20050913162232.GA18592@cerberus.oppresses.us> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Tue__13_Sep_2005_18_09_10_+0100_reacXuqfwV8aEaWd; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 6d6f85a5-7cba-4be9-9053-d1352cd7c2e8 X-Archives-Hash: 253b3881b51a524ae8f0db4ba6292e61 --Signature_Tue__13_Sep_2005_18_09_10_+0100_reacXuqfwV8aEaWd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:22:32 -0400 Jon Portnoy wrote: | On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:33:59AM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: | >=20 | > The actual powers/role of devrel has always been a grey area. |=20 | No it hasn't, unless by 'gray area' you mean 'a few people who don't=20 | like devrel claim it shouldn't be able to do anything because | drobbins set it up' |=20 | Recruitment, conflict resolution, disciplinary issues. I.e., | 'managing developers.' Well, here's the thing... I've been told by various devrel members that: * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's QA's job * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's the council's job * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's the management's job * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they decide when they do it * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they need to be told by QA when they need to do something * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they need to be told by a manager when they need to do something When you add in things that drobbins, the council and various managers have said it becomes even more contradictory. So I'd say it's not a very clear area at all... --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature_Tue__13_Sep_2005_18_09_10_+0100_reacXuqfwV8aEaWd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDJwe496zL6DUtXhERAmF8AJ9rV8TiiIGt8QiiKRQupM7s6VJSwwCggfpH l4dMWau0rHdlc9ik5x1T/fA= =biLr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Tue__13_Sep_2005_18_09_10_+0100_reacXuqfwV8aEaWd-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list