From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFF5U-0000o8-S1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:00:57 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8DHthTY028474; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:55:43 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8DHs4SD008485 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:54:05 GMT Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=home.wh0rd.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EFF3H-0004AH-NP for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:58:40 +0000 Received: (qmail 2490 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2005 13:55:41 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO vapier) (192.168.0.2) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2005 13:55:41 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:58:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <4325D12A.5050601@gentoo.org> <20050913162232.GA18592@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20050913180910.1012fb27@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20050913180910.1012fb27@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509131358.41822.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 355e78e3-8ab1-4f88-99f5-a083494e71c1 X-Archives-Hash: e534774404676a8e7c5ffaa81ed2c240 On Tuesday 13 September 2005 01:09 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:22:32 -0400 Jon Portnoy <avenj@gentoo.org> wrote: > | On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:33:59AM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > | > The actual powers/role of devrel has always been a grey area. > | > | No it hasn't, unless by 'gray area' you mean 'a few people who don't > | like devrel claim it shouldn't be able to do anything because > | drobbins set it up' > | > | Recruitment, conflict resolution, disciplinary issues. I.e., > | 'managing developers.' > > * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's QA's job > * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's the council's > job > * devrel doesn't do "broke the tree" enforcement, that's the > management's job > * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they decide > when they do it > * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they need to > be told by QA when they need to do something > * devrel are the only people who do enforcement, and that they need to > be told by a manager when they need to do something ive heard some of these ... personally i see it as: - the council puts policies/guidelines/etc into effect based on developer community - QA team uses these policies/guidelines/etc to validate Gentoo and makes other developers aware of their mistakes in a friendly manner - in the case of developers who do not wish to follow accepted policies/guidelines/etc even after being enlightened, devrel is notified and takes appropriate corrective action the idea of course is that policies/guidelines/etc dont come out of nowhere as they should be generally accepted before they are instituted -mike -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list