From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEtxP-0002ON-Ne for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:27:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8CJLMJG020869; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:21:22 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8CJGjLi005833 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:16:45 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EEtra-00002K-5L for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:21:10 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EEts9-0006sq-9y for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:21:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:21:43 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ROX: maintainer-wanted and apps out of date Message-ID: <20050912202143.1c487a31@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <200509122053.32423.carlo@gentoo.org> References: <1126447110.10560.13.camel@localhost> <200509121932.37955.carlo@gentoo.org> <1087814765.20050912195620@gentoo.org> <200509122053.32423.carlo@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.13 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Signature_Mon__12_Sep_2005_20_21_43_+0100_Fqbv3L1QRxeMmMiM; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 452e3622-3aee-4600-9ea2-8b7e82252983 X-Archives-Hash: 1fad3b754597163ae69449e77861492d --Signature_Mon__12_Sep_2005_20_21_43_+0100_Fqbv3L1QRxeMmMiM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:53:26 +0200 Carsten Lohrke wrote: | On Monday 12 September 2005 19:56, Jakub Moc wrote: | 1. The biggest share of maintenance isn't getting an ebuild right, | but the ongoing effort keeping it up to date, applying patches, | interact with upstream developers, test, stabilize,... To me it | absolutely doesn't matter, if an ebuild is broken or not before | taking into account to maintain it. A lot of that depends upon the package in question. Some of the things I maintain have pretty tricky ebuilds and some fairly hairy eclass voodoo, but the actual bumps are almost always extremely quick and simple. | 2. People are interested in applications, but may not have the skills | or interest to get an ebuild 100% perfect. WONTFIX will look like | PISSOFF for them. I think we just look a bit petty-minded. We don't WONTFIX it without an explanation. I always give something along the lines of "Please attach an updated ebuild with the following things fixed and reopen:". *shrug* If someone wants to create a new bugzilla resolution, I'll start using it, but for now, WONTFIX is what we agreed was the most suitable resolution. And as for taking it as a PISSOFF... We've had exactly one person do that so far. All the rest of the feedback we receive -- which is a heck of a lot -- is of the "thanks for the pointers, please could someone check this updated ebuild?" and occasionally "could you clarify $blah for me please?" variety. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature_Mon__12_Sep_2005_20_21_43_+0100_Fqbv3L1QRxeMmMiM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDJdVJ96zL6DUtXhERAhmcAJ9dW0iT3JhjX36maa0OCiBKZ9NlkwCfYQiM UJugpUBlkwYvibH79+O61gE= =b9Wv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Mon__12_Sep_2005_20_21_43_+0100_Fqbv3L1QRxeMmMiM-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list