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From: Christian Parpart <trapni@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 11:08:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509041109.00561.trapni@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4317D508.3060106@gentoo.org>

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On Friday 02 September 2005 06:28, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Grant Goodyear wrote:
> > Christian Parpart wrote: [Thu Sep 01 2005, 05:45:43PM CDT]
> >
> >>This just leads me to assume you're not really a coder (wrt native
> >>programming languages like C/C++), are you?
> >
> > *Grin*  This sort of condescending attitude is rarely wise when it comes
> > to dealing with Gentoo devs.  Not only does it tend to annoy people
> > (yes, I'm a tad annoyed by the presumption), but since you're still
> > relatively new here the odds are that people know the person you're
> > being condescending to better than they know you, and thus it just makes
> > you look bad if you're wrong.  Feel free to ask people what I do for a
> > living, and whether they suspect that I know the difference between a
> > 64-bit pointer and a 32-bit int.
>
> Ha! Yeah ... kids these days... just don't respect their elders like
> they should ;-). I have seen more and more 'newish' devs speaking their
> minds like this without even knowing/asking the person. I guess respect
> and tactfulness isn't being taught anymore...
>
> And yes, Grant definitely knows the difference :-)

Maybe I do not understand the diffference between "I assume" and "I know", and 
"I know" I meant the first, however, in that case, Grant, I do not know why 
you're requesting this combine when you know about these "issues" already. 
Don't get me wrong, I am (though, I was) just curious, and really surprised 
how the hell ppl (telling to be coders) can even think about such merges. It 
might - of course - *somehow* still be possible, but I just do not believe 
in, as I posted earlier (by example).

And just like kintaco said, there're not only ppl outside that do know why 
those archs are different, there're also ppl outside that even make use of 
such things on *their* main arch (x86) and do not care (or did) about 64bit 
compats, in fact, most do not know that this piece of could would lead into 
semantic errors on such archs anyway.

As said, don't get me wrong, I'm neither new (depends on definition!) nor am I 
"missing respect". I was just sharing some by-example snippets why this is a 
bad idea, and I was just "assuming" (not "know") why I said what I said.

Regards,
Christian Parpart.

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-04  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 17:10 [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64 Grant Goodyear
2005-09-01 17:20 ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-09-01 18:13   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-09-01 17:23 ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 17:27   ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 17:23 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 17:34   ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 17:42     ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 17:49       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 17:59         ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 18:13           ` Brian Harring
2005-09-01 17:51       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 18:02       ` Stephen Bennett
2005-09-02 19:33       ` splite-gentoo
2005-09-03  3:54         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-09-01 17:39   ` [gentoo-dev] " Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 17:45     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 17:47     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-09-01 17:52       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 18:58       ` Luis Medinas
2005-09-01 20:46       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-09-01 17:50     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-09-01 17:54     ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 18:20     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-09-01 17:41   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 17:50     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 18:02       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 18:11         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 18:32           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 18:46             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 18:53               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:02                 ` Olivier Crete
2005-09-01 18:36         ` Olivier Crete
2005-09-01 18:42           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 18:54             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:02               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:14                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:29                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-09-01 19:37                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:00             ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-09-01 19:17               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:34                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-09-01 18:54           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-09-01 19:09             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:25             ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-09-01 20:14               ` Ian Leitch
2005-09-01 20:32                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-09-01 21:05               ` Olivier Crete
2005-09-01 22:02                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-09-02  2:47                 ` Luis Medinas
2005-09-01 20:26             ` Kevin F. Quinn
2005-09-01 21:41             ` Luis F. Araujo
2005-09-02  2:53               ` Luis Medinas
2005-09-01 18:59           ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-09-01 19:09             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:19               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:28                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:39                   ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-09-01 19:42                   ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 20:01                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:23             ` Simon Stelling
2005-09-01 17:53 ` Lares Moreau
2005-09-01 18:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 19:06   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-09-01 20:52   ` Danny van Dyk
2005-09-01 18:57 ` Mike Doty
2005-09-01 21:10 ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2005-09-01 22:45 ` Christian Parpart
2005-09-02  1:38   ` Grant Goodyear
2005-09-02  4:28     ` Lance Albertson
2005-09-04  9:08       ` Christian Parpart [this message]
2005-09-04 15:38         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-02 12:25     ` Mike Doty

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