Re: [gentoo-dev] Gstreamer + Use Flags

["Fabian Zeindl" <fabian@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at>]

Since nobody except Diego replied on my mail a week ago: 
Is there another way besides filing bugs and mailing the list to make a
proposal which gets investigated? I think many users are concerned about that
gstreamer "oddness", and I didn't find one good reason while reading through
bugzilla of not doing this the way I proposed.

greetings
fabian zeindl

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:38:47 +0200, Fabian Zeindl wrote
> Hi
> 
> Some time ago I opened a bug concerning Gstreamer's useflags, which are
> handled completely unlogical at the moment. *every* package 
> depending on the gstreamer multimediaframework brings it's own use 
> flags for gstreamer-plugins, instead of putting the use flags 
> centrally in the gstreamer package itself.
> 
> I know this has been discussed before on bugzilla and the lists, and 
> I read through all discussions I found. I certainly don't want to 
> waste any developer's time with this, but the current handling of 
> this is unlogical and not "the gentoo way". I think that many users 
> share my opinion here although some devs (foser e.g.) don't agree 
> with this.
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100872 and
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84663 decribe the problem.
> 
> So my proposal is putting UseFlags for additional GstreamerPlugins 
> in the Gstreamerpackage and remove it in the packages depending on 
> Gstreamer (totem for example).
> 
> Benefits of this:
>  * you have ONE place where you can decide what gstreamer plugins to 
> install * you don't have 'wasted useflags'. It's not logical if I 
> compile amarok without mad and still can use mad, cause another 
> application already used this useflag... * you don't have to 
> reemerge EVERY single application that has gstreamer useflags, when 
> you want to install ONE additional gstreamerplugin, that's 
> completely UNNECESSARY * people don't get confused when using xine 
> and useflags doesn't have an impact. (mp3 doesn't work -> recompile 
> amarok with xine and mad -> mp3 still doesn't work cause mad useflag 
> doesn't influence xine)
> 
> CONS:
>  * you have to understand that you use gstreamer: when you want to have
> additional capabilities simple recompiling of amarok (p.e.) doesn't 
> work, you have to recompile gstreamer or emerge -uDN world
> 
> For me the PROS outweigh the CONS. What do you say?
> 
> greetings and hoping that I don't annoy anyone with this mail
> 
> fabian
> 
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