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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:13:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050821231356.050432ce@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1124661626.13706.13.camel@sponge.fungus>

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:00:26 +0200 Henrik Brix Andersen
<brix@gentoo.org> wrote:
| > * Install, either with the terminal (as is done by rxvt-unicode
| >   currently), or as part of ncurses, proper terminfo definitions for
| >   these terminals.
| 
| One could argue for both solutions here: it would make sense to
| install it along with the offending terminal, since this is where we
| change the value of the $TERM variable.

The problem with this is that non-X boxes will be missing the terminfo
descriptions.

| Perhaps we should just once-and-for-all submit a patch to ncurses
| which includes these new terminfo definitions? We will then patch our
| foo-terminal ebuilds to set a proper value of $TERM. Then when
| upstream (hopefully) decides to change their $TERM value to something
| sane, ncurses will already have the support, and we can remove the
| local patch along with the version bump of foo-terminal.

The problem with this is that some terminals gain new capabilities
fairly regularly. One example is rxvt-unicode, which is still putting
out regular releases.

A third possibility is to split out the terminfo db from ncurses. This
will let us do frequent updates if necessary. It may also help the
embedded people -- we could add a USE=minimal which only installs
'common' definitions and leaves out support for obscure 1950s line
printers. There may be a gaping hole in this idea. I haven't thought it
through much...

| > * Include TERM stuff in policy so that the problem doesn't crop up
| > again a few months later.
| 
| I'm not sure what you mean by "policy"?

That thing we don't have yet.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-21 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-21 21:05 [gentoo-dev] Fixing the TERM mess Ciaran McCreesh
2005-08-21 22:00 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-08-21 22:13   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2005-08-21 22:41     ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-08-21 22:43     ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-08-21 23:08       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-08-22  0:21         ` Renat Lumpau
2005-08-22  7:18           ` Tavis Ormandy
2005-08-22  7:46             ` Tavis Ormandy
     [not found]           ` <605B5D3B660EFCD90AD3B473@10.0.0.1>
     [not found]             ` <7C3236ADA8D6B69461A1FF62@10.0.0.1>
2005-08-22 12:44               ` Dan Meltzer
2005-08-29 10:44         ` Francesco R
2005-08-22 12:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Frysinger
2005-08-23  6:52 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2005-08-23 20:27   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-08-23 20:57     ` Olivier Crete
2005-08-23 21:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-08-24  0:01       ` Georgi Georgiev
2005-08-23 23:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sven Köhler
2005-08-24 11:55   ` Martin Schlemmer
2005-08-24  0:10 ` Sven Köhler
2005-08-24 12:07   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-08-29  7:28     ` ivan vadovič
2005-08-29 14:53       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-08 16:50         ` ivan
2005-09-08 16:59           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-09-01 18:27 ` Joe Wells
2005-09-06 19:19   ` Jan Kundrát
2005-09-07  8:31     ` YoYo Siska
2005-09-09 16:24     ` Joe Wells (reverse mailbox letters only for non-public replies)

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