From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E373e-0005AL-OL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:00:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7B6xROI023698; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:59:27 GMT Received: from tiger.gg3.net (m006052.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [219.121.6.52]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7B6vh0C001964 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:57:44 GMT Received: (qmail 2613 invoked by uid 89); 11 Aug 2005 06:58:30 -0000 Received: from lion.gg3.net (HELO lion) (10.0.0.2) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2005 06:58:30 -0000 Received: by lion (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:58:30 +0900 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 15:58:30 +0900 From: Georgi Georgiev To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans Message-ID: <20050811065830.GA9429@lion.gg3.net> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <42EE8C03.3040904@gentoo.org> <42EF0D9A.4070304@gentoo.org> <42F6C8AC.2070307@gentoo.org> <42F712E3.6070708@gentoo.org> <42F8F314.8040902@gentoo.org> <20050811040743.GA8481@lion.gg3.net> <42FAD195.3030506@gentoo.org> <42FAD806.4030201@gentoo.org> <20050811050105.GA8752@lion.gg3.net> <42FADD54.4000704@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42FAE9BA.1050909@gentoo.org> <42FADD54.4000704@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: bd0da98d-f6a5-4a88-b4da-1eac78d05583 X-Archives-Hash: 5e41a4f27655810593677f69723ebdfb --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline maillog: 10/08/2005-23:01:30(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > | Hm, why not just forget the transition, stick a warning telling people > | to add > | > | ModulesPath "/usr/lib/modules" > | ModulesPath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" > > Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standard installation is broken. > This shouldn't need to be in a configuration file; none of the tools I'm > aware of generate files with ModulePath by default, and it really > doesn't make sense to. > > xorg.conf is difficult and user-unfriendly enough to set up already > without adding more Gentoo-only requirements to it. Mmmm, xorgcfg does generate an xorg.conf with ModulePath in it. That's why I had it in mine in the first place. Anyway, I agree with your other points. maillog: 10/08/2005-22:08:36(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > | What about new revisions of the monolithic xorg that will install in > | /usr/lib/xorg/modules followed by new revisions of all packages like > | opengl-update, nvidia, ati-whatever, that will depend on the newer xorg > | release? > > We still need to deal with the transition either way. We can't just > ignore everything that's installed in /usr/lib/modules when we upgrade xorg. I did not really understand the above. What I had in mind was making the transition now, rather than later. This would avoid the need for parallel ebuilds of all packages and if the appropriate packages block on appropriate revisions, it shouldn't cause much hassle. Unlike the /usr/X11R6 -> /usr move, there are only a few packages that install x modules (does anyone know how many packages these are?) so upgrading said packages shouldn't be much of a hassle. I never thought about ignoring /usr/lib/modules. -- -* Georgi Georgiev -* "Then you admit confirming not denying -* *- chutz@gg3.net *- you ever said that?" "NO! ... I mean Yes! *- -* +81(90)2877-8845 -* WHAT?" "I'll put `maybe.'" -- Bloom County -* --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFC+vcWfXO2NUT1EmYRApgrAJ9joAgtfa7Y+jMPCrARhukujMtIuwCgqKV2 aRMYPkr1zWR8w13qL6biKXA= =P4l3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list