[gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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Hi,
Just another issue that it's easily handled anyway.

On Gentoo/FreeBSD and probably every other system using dev-util/libiconv 
instead of the glibc-provided one creates the /usr/lib/charset.alias file.
Unfortunately this gets conflict over different packages.

The good way to handle this is just remove it out of the packages, as libiconv 
takes care of it. So if nobody disagrees, I'm going to add an rm -f 
${D}/usr/$(get_libdir)/charset.alias to the ebuilds which installs that file 
on g/fbsd.

Thanks again,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Friday 15 July 2005 08:33 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Gentoo/FreeBSD and probably every other system using dev-util/libiconv
> instead of the glibc-provided one creates the /usr/lib/charset.alias file.
> Unfortunately this gets conflict over different packages.

i thought the packages that create that file do so because they were utilizing 
some bundled crap ...

regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather than 
per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?

can i get access to a fbsd box so i can test some of this crap ?  i'd like to 
investigate sed/e2fsprogs and why it installs those files ...
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Kito]

On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:

> On Friday 15 July 2005 08:33 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
>
>> On Gentoo/FreeBSD and probably every other system using dev-util/ 
>> libiconv
>> instead of the glibc-provided one creates the /usr/lib/ 
>> charset.alias file.
>> Unfortunately this gets conflict over different packages.

Exact same situation with Darwin/OS X...

>>
>
> i thought the packages that create that file do so because they  
> were utilizing
> some bundled crap ...
>
> regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather than
> per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?

Globally would definitely be better IMO. But how would bash-fu in a  
profile prevent a collision during a merge?

>
> can i get access to a fbsd box so i can test some of this crap ?   
> i'd like to
> investigate sed/e2fsprogs and why it installs those files ...
> -mike
>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Friday 15 July 2005 09:15 pm, Kito wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather than
> > per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?
>
> Globally would definitely be better IMO. But how would bash-fu in a
> profile prevent a collision during a merge?

if your bash fu is good enough, you'd delete the file in $D before it ever hit 
$ROOT
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Saturday 16 July 2005 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i thought the packages that create that file do so because they were
> utilizing some bundled crap ...
No, they create that when the uses internal libiconv/gettxt on GLIBC systems 
and when using external libiconv in non-GLIBC sysems. That's because the 
locales in GLIBC are the same as handled by libiconv but it's not true with 
FBSD's libc.

> regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather than
> per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?
Don't think like this is a task for the profile, but maybe we can do something 
with FEATURES inside of portage.

> can i get access to a fbsd box so i can test some of this crap ?  i'd like
> to investigate sed/e2fsprogs and why it installs those files ...
My box right now has a bit of trouble, mainly for temperature. spb maybe has 
one.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Marius Mauch]

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On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:05:09 +0200
"Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <flameeyes@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Saturday 16 July 2005 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather
> > than per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?
> Don't think like this is a task for the profile, but maybe we can do
> something with FEATURES inside of portage.

No new FEATURES for trivial stuff like this, but what about using
INSTALL_MASK?

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Saturday 16 July 2005 19:07, Marius Mauch wrote:
> No new FEATURES for trivial stuff like this, but what about using
> INSTALL_MASK?
A mask for things that doesn't get installed? Yeah that could work, too.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Saturday 16 July 2005 01:07 pm, Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:05:09 +0200
>
> "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <flameeyes@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 July 2005 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > regardless, i think this should be done on a global scale rather
> > > than per-package ... why not add some bashrc-foo to your profile ?
> >
> > Don't think like this is a task for the profile, but maybe we can do
> > something with FEATURES inside of portage.
>
> No new FEATURES for trivial stuff like this, but what about using
> INSTALL_MASK?

ah, i'd forgotten about that sweet feature from iggy

is INSTALL_MASK cumulative ?  if it is, then bsd/darwin wh0res can simply add 
that to their base profile:
INSTALL_MASK="/usr/lib/charset.alias"

this of course assumes that *no package* should ever install that file, 
including your bsd libc ...
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:26, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> this of course assumes that *no package* should ever install that file,
> including your bsd libc ...
Actually, libiconv should install that file, at least.
We can RESTRICT it for just a package?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 17 July 2005 09:34 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:26, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > this of course assumes that *no package* should ever install that file,
> > including your bsd libc ...
>
> Actually, libiconv should install that file, at least.
> We can RESTRICT it for just a package?

i dont think so

you could see if doing something like `export INSTALL_MASK=""` in src_unpack() 
helps ... if it doesnt, i think the only other option would be to add 
something like this to profile bashrc:
if [ "${CATEGORY}/${PN}" != "sys-libs/libiconv" ] ; then
    export INSTALL_MASK="/usr/lib/charset.alias"
fi
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Ned Ludd]

On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 10:17 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 17 July 2005 09:34 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> > On Sunday 17 July 2005 02:26, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > this of course assumes that *no package* should ever install that file,
> > > including your bsd libc ...
> >
> > Actually, libiconv should install that file, at least.
> > We can RESTRICT it for just a package?
> 
> i dont think so
> 
> you could see if doing something like `export INSTALL_MASK=""` in src_unpack() 
> helps ... if it doesnt, i think the only other option would be to add 
> something like this to profile bashrc:
> if [ "${CATEGORY}/${PN}" != "sys-libs/libiconv" ] ; then
>     export INSTALL_MASK="/usr/lib/charset.alias"
> fi

INSTALL_MASK is non cumulative. 
Please use INSTALL_MASK="${INSTALL_MASK} /usr/lib/charset.alias" as to not override the user in anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 17 July 2005 12:03 pm, Ned Ludd wrote:
> INSTALL_MASK is non cumulative.
> Please use INSTALL_MASK="${INSTALL_MASK} /usr/lib/charset.alias" as to not
> override the user in anyway.

any harm with making it cumulative ?  iirc, it takes just a few minor tweaks 
to portage to declare it as such
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Ned Ludd]

On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 00:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 17 July 2005 12:03 pm, Ned Ludd wrote:
> > INSTALL_MASK is non cumulative.
> > Please use INSTALL_MASK="${INSTALL_MASK} /usr/lib/charset.alias" as to not
> > override the user in anyway.

> any harm with making it cumulative ? 
>  iirc, it takes just a few minor tweaks 
> to portage to declare it as such

None that I can think of. other than it not working that way now and if 
we start assuming it does too soon in the next XYZ version and the user
is still on ABC they will end up with a non up masked files. Not that it
should be to much of a real problem as imasking remains one of portages
better kept secrets and not that many people are using them outside of
embedded.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [G/FBSD] /usr/lib/charset.alias

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tuesday 19 July 2005 07:39 am, Ned Ludd wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 00:47 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Sunday 17 July 2005 12:03 pm, Ned Ludd wrote:
> > > INSTALL_MASK is non cumulative.
> > > Please use INSTALL_MASK="${INSTALL_MASK} /usr/lib/charset.alias" as to
> > > not override the user in anyway.
> >
> > any harm with making it cumulative ?
> >  iirc, it takes just a few minor tweaks
> > to portage to declare it as such
>
> None that I can think of. other than it not working that way now and if
> we start assuming it does too soon in the next XYZ version and the user
> is still on ABC they will end up with a non up masked files. Not that it
> should be to much of a real problem as imasking remains one of portages
> better kept secrets and not that many people are using them outside of
> embedded.

right, most people arent using it right now so i dont see much harm in 
changing (improving!) behavior
-mike
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