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* [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category net-telephony
@ 2005-07-12 22:01 Stefan Knoblich
  2005-07-13  0:07 ` Ned Ludd
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Knoblich @ 2005-07-12 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Hi,

this has been a little longer on my ToDo list and i think now is the right time to propose it
(before starting to put asterisk-1.2(_pre) stuff into the tree...).

Things that should be moved:

asterisk and related things (= asterisk-*)   (telephony server i.e. runs in voip-free environments)
zaptel, libpri, zapata     (telephony libs / drivers)
openh323, iax, libosip
gnomemeeting, kiax, linphone, kphone, minisip (and maybe some/all of it's libmsip, libmutil, libmnetutil and libmikey deps)
yate, siproxd, gnugk, sipp, sipsak, ser, partysip

and everything else telephony related that's missing here.

Why net-telephony?
Some of these things aren't purely (or enterely not) VoIP only e.g. asterisk, zaptel and libpri
(and more stuff being out there that wouldn't fit into a voip only category).

Comments? Suggestions?

stkn

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category net-telephony
  2005-07-12 22:01 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category net-telephony Stefan Knoblich
@ 2005-07-13  0:07 ` Ned Ludd
  2005-07-13  3:29   ` Georgi Georgiev
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ned Ludd @ 2005-07-13  0:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 00:01 +0200, Stefan Knoblich wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> this has been a little longer on my ToDo list and i think now is the right time to propose it
> (before starting to put asterisk-1.2(_pre) stuff into the tree...).
> 
> Things that should be moved:

s/should/could


> and everything else telephony related that's missing here.
> 
> Why net-telephony?
> Some of these things aren't purely (or enterely not) VoIP only e.g. asterisk, zaptel and libpri
> (and more stuff being out there that wouldn't fit into a voip only category).

> Comments? Suggestions?


While as much as we love and depend on these programs. Moving them wont
really help anything other than making the tree slightly easier to
navigate by end users. This slight gain of category navigation comes at
a price in that it invalidates existing packages/GRP sets and causes
breakage for users that utilized overlays. One might think is that not
what fixpackages is supposed to fix. But sadly the existing fixpackages
is flawed in design which renders it pretty much usable to most.

I love these ebuilds but I hope you do not add net-telephony to the 
tree.


-- 
Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New category net-telephony
  2005-07-13  0:07 ` Ned Ludd
@ 2005-07-13  3:29   ` Georgi Georgiev
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Georgi Georgiev @ 2005-07-13  3:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

maillog: 12/07/2005-20:07:11(-0400): Ned Ludd types
> On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 00:01 +0200, Stefan Knoblich wrote: 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > this has been a little longer on my ToDo list and i think now is the right time to propose it
> > (before starting to put asterisk-1.2(_pre) stuff into the tree...).
> > 
> > Things that should be moved:
> 
> s/should/could
> 
> 
> > and everything else telephony related that's missing here.
> > 
> > Why net-telephony?
> > Some of these things aren't purely (or enterely not) VoIP only e.g. asterisk, zaptel and libpri
> > (and more stuff being out there that wouldn't fit into a voip only category).
> 
> > Comments? Suggestions?
> 
> 
> While as much as we love and depend on these programs. Moving them wont
> really help anything other than making the tree slightly easier to
> navigate by end users. This slight gain of category navigation comes at
> a price in that it invalidates existing packages/GRP sets and causes
> breakage for users that utilized overlays. One might think is that not
> what fixpackages is supposed to fix. But sadly the existing fixpackages
> is flawed in design which renders it pretty much usable to most.
> 
> I love these ebuilds but I hope you do not add net-telephony to the 
> tree.

Every post against moving/renaming a package in the tree gets my
support. Remember, the alternative to a flat portage tree is to keep
packages in place.

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