From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.105.134.102] (helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dn1bX-0006sy-G2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:57:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5RLuLpB006922; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:56:21 GMT Received: from xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at (xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at [128.131.95.22]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5RLsf0i032727 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:54:41 GMT Received: from xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at (amnenion@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j5RLt5wa023332 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:55:05 +0200 Received: (from amnenion@localhost) by xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) id j5RLt5dX023331 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:55:05 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:55:04 +0200 From: Haas Wernfried To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project Message-ID: <20050627215504.GC13005@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> Mail-Followup-To: Haas Wernfried , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20050627170941.GA1225@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> <42C057B6.3070306@flaska.net> <20050627203103.GA13962@gentoo.org> <20050627205007.GA13005@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at> <1119907158.13606.144.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1119907158.13606.144.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Archives-Salt: 36c71617-afeb-4ce9-9aab-a8ce431f4cc0 X-Archives-Hash: b73aaa43c3714f1f5ae5099b9fe6ebaf On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:19:18PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > If they do not speak the language well, I'm sure we can find someone to > translate the quiz and their answers between English and their native > tongue. Not an option, English is a requirement. See my previous mail. > As for unwilling to take the quiz, well, I'm sorry, but I just don't > find that acceptable. Giving any official status to the Gentoo > moderators needs to be an all or nothing deal. It would be especially > confusing to our users to have both "official" and "unofficial" Gentoo > staff for moderators. I know this sounds a bit harsh, but if someone > refuses to take the developer quiz, they don't become a developer. If > someone refuses to take the staff quiz, then they don't become a member > of the staff. I agree it may still be a bit confusing to some users and i agree those who don't take the quiz won't become an official member. > > There is no way to force it on them and firing them is not an option. > Why not? You're not serious, are you? These people have dedicated a lot of work to the forums and Gentoo. They are doing a great job. Why fire them? > > Personally, i'd like to see all of the existing moderators take the > > quiz, i assume it may be something like two thirds. > Then, in my opinion, I'd see 1/3 of the moderators getting the boot. You're still not serious, are you? The purpose of this GLEP is to solve a problem that was introduced a while ago. Giving 1/3 of the mods the boot isn't exactly my definition of solving a problem. What if there is no outcome with this GLEP, will everybody get the boot who isn't a developer then? I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day all active moderators will be official. cheers, Wernfried -- Fppmpppffpppmpfpffmffmppmpm Mfpmmmmmmfmm fpp.mfpmmmmmmfmm@fpfppffpmmpppff.mfpfmpfmf.fmpfmffppmffmppppp.mmmmmf.mmmfmp mfpfmpfmppfm://fpfppffpmmpppff.ppmfmfmpm.mmmfmp/~mmmppmpppmpppppmffppfppp/ http://www.namesuppressed.com/kenny/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list