From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.105.134.102] (helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiIa5-0002s8-Po for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:04:22 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5EL0hbi022805; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 21:00:43 GMT Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5EKuU6e026925 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:56:31 GMT Received: from dsl-213-023-208-187.arcor-ip.net [213.23.208.187] (helo=sven.genone.homeip.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwtQ-1DiIT93DOa-0004gM; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:57:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:02:56 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues Message-ID: <20050614230256.0bcaa4f7@sven.genone.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20050615140521.663e2a6f@localhost> References: <42A77DF0.3030200@comcast.net> <20050615140521.663e2a6f@localhost> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11 (GTK+ 2.6.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Signature_Tue__14_Jun_2005_23_02_56_+0200_MRexcS=w6.PjTwMW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:7e6c91d1b14dbccceb2f2166522fa0f6 X-Archives-Salt: 9404e8b8-83e7-4a34-a8ed-4485ff925f69 X-Archives-Hash: af955632c04a2a2b7c8bb008dfb7533e --Signature_Tue__14_Jun_2005_23_02_56_+0200_MRexcS=w6.PjTwMW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:05:21 +0900 Chris White wrote: > > >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for > > >>voice to speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' > > >>smokescreen ? >=20 > My intentions in this email were regarding the above worries about > things. I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point > between irc users that want a voice in dev. If anyone has > disagreements, I'll be happy to hear them out and hopefully address > them. My plan of interaction is as follows: [snip] Won't work. First it would introduce a single point of failure. If we'd really follow this route there has to be a role for this, not a user. Then how are people supposed to know about this in teh first place? I wouldn't expect that users with a question/topic for -dev have read the dev handbook. Often that is spontaneous, which brings me to my next point: email definitely won't work for this, I mean if someone writes an email they can just as well ask their question on the gentoo-dev list directly. And finally: I really don't like the idea of telling people "ask Chris for voice, other devs might not behave nice", if there really is a problem this will just sidestep it, not solve it. Marius --=20 Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. --Signature_Tue__14_Jun_2005_23_02_56_+0200_MRexcS=w6.PjTwMW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCr0YDWzrL1pM7SNcRAuzuAJ9Lqpy1iWJiG0JKYyR7LHn6sNabNgCeL1Fc a1jaWstsnyDQfZWDgnOzHBk= =oOWu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Tue__14_Jun_2005_23_02_56_+0200_MRexcS=w6.PjTwMW-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list