From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from griffon26.kfk4ever.com (griffon26.demon.nl [82.161.57.89]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j57LDnwR002127 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 21:13:49 GMT Received: by griffon26.kfk4ever.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A9479A0A580; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 23:13:04 +0200 From: Maurice van der Pot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? Message-ID: <20050607211304.GC1655@kfk4ever.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20050606235550.GL9084@kaf.zko.hp.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050606235550.GL9084@kaf.zko.hp.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.kfk4ever.com/~griffon26/pubkey.asc X-URL: http://www.kfk4ever.com/ X-Archives-Salt: 5bee1250-8485-4f53-b985-1d4615005f31 X-Archives-Hash: bf3901309acdcef3671025b917eeeeda --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:55:50PM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > We understand when real life gets in > the way of bug-fixing, because all our developers are volunteers. I never ever would have considered becoming a developer if this hadn't been the case. I have my day job to worry about responsibilities and planning. > Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the > users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*. > It's our playground, and it's the reason we use a live tree rather > than switching to an actually sane approach. The users are cool > because they point out bugs, help solve problems on bugzilla, suggest > enhancements, provide patches, and notify us of package updates. > Sometimes they become developers. But the truth is that Gentoo sees > improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the > developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first, > the users second. Back when I was not yet a Gentoo developer but just a developer using=20 Gentoo, whenever I ran into a problem with one tool or other I was=20 quite motivated to try and come up with a fix, because: - it was easy to include the fix in the system because of the ebuild=20 format as well as the PORTAGE_OVERLAY feature - it was easy to submit the fix back to Gentoo in a ready to use format - I didn't have to wait forever for the next official release containing=20 the fix I contributed I was also very pleased with all the up-to-date tools/applications at my disposal. Now that I am a Gentoo developer I just want to help any development=20 done on a Gentoo platform go as smoothly as possible by trying to keep=20 bug response time and TTP (time-to-portage) of new versions down. So in my mind, as someone else already mentioned, Gentoo is from=20 developers for developers. Regards, Maurice. P.S.: I must say I have not yet taken part in any Gentoo project that isn't purely maintenance. Maybe if I did my view would change... hmmm... /me looks for a list of current projects P.P.S.: Oh, and I cannot send this mail without mentioning that since the beginning, when I just started using Gentoo, I've always=20 felt welcome... something I didn't expect to find on the internet. --=20 Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer griffon26@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org Creator of BiteMe! griffon26@kfk4ever.com http://www.kfk4ever.com --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCpg3gMGnpIbeahxwRAhO0AJ9VP0MCoSFEq7vtxFrWe2PujEZvLACgon15 pHRH32aMWeFAsUXMYp4pWQ4= =/SU9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ncSAzJYg3Aa9+CRW-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list