From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from perch.kroah.org (mail.kroah.org [69.55.234.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j574pKGq012396 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 04:51:21 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.10] (c-24-22-118-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net [24.22.118.199]) (authenticated) by perch.kroah.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j574pii01887 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:44 -0700 Received: from greg by echidna.kroah.org with local (masqmail 0.2.19) id 1DfW3p-4Xk-00 for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:51:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 21:51:33 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo? Message-ID: <20050607045133.GA17426@kroah.com> References: <20050606235550.GL9084@kaf.zko.hp.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050606235550.GL9084@kaf.zko.hp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: 97859062-1746-48b2-b1c9-7cce613558c2 X-Archives-Hash: 860ba2d6f2c6deb155256b363f640b9b On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:55:50PM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote: > I'd like Gentoo to be a place where neat things are developed. > If RH or SuSE (or another for-profit Linux vendor) wants to take some > of those developments and use them to make a profit, that's fine with > me. We're over here having fun. I second this. That's why I joined... > Also I find it amusing when people say that Gentoo exists for the > users. I think that is wrong. Gentoo exists for the *developers*. > It's our playground, and it's the reason we use a live tree rather > than switching to an actually sane approach. The users are cool > because they point out bugs, help solve problems on bugzilla, suggest > enhancements, provide patches, and notify us of package updates. > Sometimes they become developers. But the truth is that Gentoo sees > improvement and maintenance in the areas that appeal to the > developers. And that is why Gentoo exists for the developers first, > the users second. Heh, I like this too. One thing that people might want to remember, if Gentoo ever changes into a "real, we take your money for support" type of distro, a lot of the employers of the us developers might reconsider allowing them to participate. Which would pretty much suck... Aron, thanks for writing this up, I enjoyed it. thanks, greg k-h p.s. And yes, Gentoo is used for a "base" distro all over the place, and that's great. Lots of embedded people like it, and even the nitwits at OSDL are using it for their "Linux Reference Platform" or whatever they are calling it these days... -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list