[gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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I'd like to move the Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide [1] onto my
devspace [2]. This could be construed as weakening its unofficial status
(despite the title and the footers), so I'm asking for comments first
rather than simply doing it.

Infra -- this is about three megs of static content. I very much doubt
that this will cause any noticeable disc or bandwidth load.

If anyone objects, just reply to this email (on or off list) saying so.
No need to provide a reason, I'm not going to discuss it or ask for an
explanation -- I'll simply withdraw this request. Similarly, if anyone
wants me to stop talking about an unofficial doc on official mailing
lists, say so and I'll shut up. Finally, if anyone would like any or all
of the guide removed, just give the word.

Since I'm wasting your bandwidth anyway... Brief summary of updates
which may be of interest to some:

* Following Stuart's comments [3], I've added an overview [4] of what
the various ebuild.sh QA notices mean and how to fix them. I'll be
adding in other similar material such as how to fix sandbox violations
-- requests welcomed.

* Following Tom's comments, I've started a section on arch things [5].
This isn't intended to be comprehensive; it's just a simple overview for
non arch people so that they can have some vague clue about what the
heck the mips guys mean when they say "this doesn't work on n32". Thanks
to the sparc and mips teams for their help and contributions. Currently
sparc and mips are the only archs covered in depth, because they're all
I know -- it would be much appreciated if other arch teams would like to
lend a hand.

* Following all kinds of people's comments, I've started a section
[6] which is known as the 'tasks reference' until I come up with a less
sucky name. Thanks to Aaron for the Bash Completion [7] things and Diego
for his commentary on PAM [8].

* More autotools [9] updates. It's getting there... I added some more
lines to the picture too.

Suggestions, contributions [10], requests, clarifications, hints about
the many many typos, complaints etc to me via email.

Again, if anyone wants me to shut up about this thing or take it down,
just let me know.

1: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual/
2: http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/
3: http://tinyurl.com/bfntq
4: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//appendices/common-problems/#
5: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//archs/#
6: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//tasks-reference/#
7: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//tasks-reference/completion/
8: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//tasks-reference/pam/
9: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual//general-concepts/autotools/#
10: http://www.firedrop.org.uk/devmanual/appendices/contributing/

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Ciaran McCreesh : #2 Gentoo Whipping Monkey
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[Mike Frysinger]

On Sunday 22 May 2005 04:35 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I'd like to move the Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide [1] onto my
> devspace [2]. This could be construed as weakening its unofficial status
> (despite the title and the footers), so I'm asking for comments first
> rather than simply doing it.

i'm all for it

> I'll simply withdraw this request. 

that'd be a loss for developers ... really, if you have a problem with the 
guide, chances are you suck at life

> Suggestions, contributions [10], requests, clarifications, hints about
> the many many typos, complaints etc to me via email.

hope you dont mind trivial stuff ;)
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 04:59:43 -0400 Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| > Suggestions, contributions [10], requests, clarifications, hints
| > about the many many typos, complaints etc to me via email.
| 
| hope you dont mind trivial stuff ;)

Heh, not at all. There're almost certainly huge numbers of silly little
mistakes, partly because vim7's spellchecker is rather tame, partly
because I suck at proofreading my own work (unfortunate side effect of
having learned to read very quickly -- I sometimes read what something
should say, not what it actually does say) and partly because when I'm
moving things around I can never keep track of what's already been
written.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[Lance Albertson]

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On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 09:35 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> I'd like to move the Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide [1] onto my
> devspace [2]. This could be construed as weakening its unofficial status
> (despite the title and the footers), so I'm asking for comments first
> rather than simply doing it.
> 
> Infra -- this is about three megs of static content. I very much doubt
> that this will cause any noticeable disc or bandwidth load.

I have no problem with this being on your dev space. Great job!

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Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Sun, 22 May 2005 09:35:42 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| I'd like to move the Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide [1] onto my
| devspace [2]. This could be construed as weakening its unofficial
| status (despite the title and the footers), so I'm asking for comments
| first rather than simply doing it.

Since no-one complained, it's now at:

http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm/devmanual/

I have some Apache redirect voodoo in place on the old host, so
hopefully you'll get automagically 301ed as necessary.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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