From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j4BI6epm027484 for ; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:06:41 GMT Received: from [62.254.189.226] (helo=snowdrop) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DVvbb-00078G-V4 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 18:06:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop) by snowdrop with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DVvbU-0001Qr-R0 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 May 2005 19:06:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:06:37 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal Message-ID: <20050511190637.1160a85d@snowdrop> In-Reply-To: <20050511172128.GA201965@lion.gg3.net> References: <20050508235004.GL6541@celeborn.wh-og.hs-niederrhein.de> <20050509001920.GC12085@ols-dell.gg3.net> <20050509170725.GC21777@kaf.zko.hp.com> <1115717301.25756.14.camel@nosferatu.lan> <20050510110404.GB5931@ols-dell.gg3.net> <20050511033055.GC16717@exodus.wit.org> <20050511042745.GA22277@ols-dell.gg3.net> <20050511050920.GC17034@exodus.wit.org> <20050511164137.48a2318a@snowdrop> <20050511172128.GA201965@lion.gg3.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.4 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Message-Flag: It's a feature, not a bug Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Signature_Wed__11_May_2005_19_06_37_+0100_PUm=ma_4.UZQAvrI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 X-Archives-Salt: b9646d19-29d4-4cd1-9d11-01bb6af17749 X-Archives-Hash: 3bad6a8b965898429b30f9a486a90cb9 --Signature_Wed__11_May_2005_19_06_37_+0100_PUm=ma_4.UZQAvrI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 May 2005 02:21:28 +0900 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | maillog: 11/05/2005-16:41:37(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types | > On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:59:42 -0700 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> | > wrote: | > | 1) Human. It's frustrating to do emerge sudo and have it tell you | > | to specify, when there's only /one/ "normal" sudo. The /other/ | > | sudo should be vim-sudo or whatever, as you mention later. | >=20 | > Silly. Then you'd *always* have to give the full name of a package | > when merging, in effect... emerge sys-devel-gcc rather than emerge | > gcc with emerge sys-devel/gcc as a fallback, for example. |=20 | But we are only arguing of getting the categories (partially) in the | package name only where there is a necessity. The example with sudo is | with app-admin/sudo being strictly sudo, and app-vim/sudo being | vim-sudo. So we keep the current names except for those that clash, | and even there only change as little as possible. So we end up not using upstream naming, leading to major hassle with tarballs, major user confusion and inconsistent naming (why are some vim things vim- and others not?). Bad! Now that portage *tells* you when you need to be more specific, there's no problem with name matches. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature_Wed__11_May_2005_19_06_37_+0100_PUm=ma_4.UZQAvrI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCgkmv96zL6DUtXhERAogQAJ9azsJwBPf+BHgomUJ75fdk2dGLtACgm8T/ Q6Kf+7vFWjwX6HSspc922CA= =T3gh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Wed__11_May_2005_19_06_37_+0100_PUm=ma_4.UZQAvrI-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list