From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [217.160.230.41]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j49J2QD5017922 for ; Mon, 9 May 2005 19:02:26 GMT Received: from S0106000d88e212e5.gv.shawcable.net[24.68.20.99] (helo=diavolo.exile.net) by mrelay.perfora.net with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKyxe-1DVDWS3Oxb-0005P6; Mon, 09 May 2005 15:02:32 -0400 Received: by diavolo.exile.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB0885E1CBD; Mon, 9 May 2005 12:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:05:35 -0700 From: Sami Samhuri To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Message-ID: <20050509190535.GV27811@no-eff-eks.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <427E116E.9080105@gentoo.org> <427E7AB5.7010804@gentoo.org> <200505081953.52610.vapier@gentoo.org> <1115640979.15912.36.camel@sponge.fungus> <427F63EB.2000802@gentoo.org> <1115645676.15912.49.camel@sponge.fungus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6CXocAQn8Xbegyxo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1115645676.15912.49.camel@sponge.fungus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Provags-ID: perfora.net abuse@perfora.net login:facf15b0d38d92af5a91e515edd5eac9 X-Archives-Salt: aca52e15-fcd2-4131-a09f-b66bb246eb8a X-Archives-Hash: c1fcbe6b76759681c1741323eb323211 --6CXocAQn8Xbegyxo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * On Mon May-09-2005 at 03:34:36 PM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen said: > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 16:21 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: [...] > > Mobile phones are far from PDAs. I don't see anything you can't do with > > a PDA (since it _is_ a computer). > > Compared to them, _normal_ mobile phones are very limited devices. >=20 > My last two mobile phones (Motorola A920 and Motorola E1000) are > symbian-based hand-helds, and they act like a PDA - but I still can't do > the same stuff with my PDA as I can with a PC. I have a symbian phone as well (Nokia 3595, at least I'm pretty sure Nokia's run symbian) but it does not act like a PDA. Luckily I also have a PDA (i-Mate PDA2K, aka O2 XDA IIs, MDA III, and so on...) which acts as a phone. Needless to say these devices are far from similar. > I suggested app-pda because of the metadata.xml description: >=20 > The app-pda category contains software for working with personal > digital assistants or hand-held computers. >=20 > As I've said, I think most modern mobile phones can be considered being > a PDA/hand-held computer. The latest and greatest phones can almost be considered PDAs, I agree. But they are not the norm yet. I mean, my phone can run Java applications and has GPRS but that's about as far as it goes. My PDA, well it has everything from BlueTooth and 802.11b to GPRS, GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900) as well as an internal 128M flash memory and a 512M SD card in the expansion slot. It even has a slide-out keyboard. This thing is more powerful than most PCs 10 years ago. They are converging, but PDAs are advancing at an astonishing rate since they're geared towards power users and geeks. Phones aren't moving as fast since for the average person they just want a phone that makes and receives calls. Does the average person use Gentoo? Probably not, but I still think they are very different beasts for now and should be kept separate. I am aware that mobile phones outside of North America are much more advanced (in general) so perhaps this is the cause of this little disagreement. I don't have a really strong opinion either way, but I thought I'd throw in my user's perspective. --=20 Sami Samhuri --6CXocAQn8Xbegyxo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCf7R/ukGyBH1UC2MRAvuUAKCe6qGar8YT9G+dQ6pwbcV5qlhE3QCggdQb zHSfmVck1LBRjMf1CgoJApM= =/Gcd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6CXocAQn8Xbegyxo-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list