[gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[aeriksson]

Hi,

Are there any plans for supporting ebuilds for windows apps which use 
wine? I just installed wine (via the ebuild) to enable DVDShrink to 
be installed. Worked like a charm, but it would have been much cooler 
to 'emerge dvdshrink' and have wine pulled in as a dependancy.

I realize there's a ton of stuff to take care of, but since the newer 
windows version support 'sharing apps' among multiple user accounts, 
there just might be a way to make them root-owned, or some such...

Anyone done any thining in this area?

/A

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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[Mike Frysinger]

On Saturday 07 May 2005 04:32 pm, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote:
> Are there any plans for supporting ebuilds for windows apps which use
> wine? I just installed wine (via the ebuild) to enable DVDShrink to
> be installed. Worked like a charm, but it would have been much cooler
> to 'emerge dvdshrink' and have wine pulled in as a dependancy.
>
> I realize there's a ton of stuff to take care of, but since the newer
> windows version support 'sharing apps' among multiple user accounts,
> there just might be a way to make them root-owned, or some such...
>
> Anyone done any thining in this area?

although i think it's a pretty neat idea, i dont think it belongs in the 
normal tree ... if it was, users would just come to us everytime wine and/or 
the app crashed and frankly, i dont want that crap

maybe something the breakmygentoo guys could pick up ?  an external rsync tree 
which is just windows apps you can run under wine would be pretty cool
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Saturday 07 May 2005 22:32, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I realize there's a ton of stuff to take care of, but since the newer
> windows version support 'sharing apps' among multiple user accounts,
> there just might be a way to make them root-owned, or some such...
I don't think this is possible at all.
You probably can have something like eMule compiled using Winelib or other 
open-source windows app always compiled using winelib and winemaker, but you 
can't install windows application system-wide and use them with wine.

There's a great difference between the way windows nt-based systems "share" 
the applications between users, and how the users are managed from wine's 
point of view.

There's a reason why Wine's default c drive directory is inside home instead 
of something system-wide.

Then... no I don't think this is something doable.. and anyway Mike is right, 
this is absolutely not for main portage tree... you are welcome to create an 
unofficial overlay with them if you find a clean way to do this :)

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Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò
Gentoo Developer (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Gentoo/AMD64)

http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[Brian Harring]

On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 10:32:53PM +0200, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Are there any plans for supporting ebuilds for windows apps which use 
> wine? I just installed wine (via the ebuild) to enable DVDShrink to 
> be installed. Worked like a charm, but it would have been much cooler 
> to 'emerge dvdshrink' and have wine pulled in as a dependancy.

Wouldn't this effectively shove the requirement of triggering whatever 
uninstall script/app bundled with the windows app, onto portage?
I can't really see any clean way to do that. 

Sure, might be nice/easier using emerge, but I don't see any 
clean/easy way portage could actually provide the expected support for 
it.  Doesn't help that ebuilds aren't interactive, and windows app 
installation are exactly the other way around :)
~brian
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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[David Gümbel]

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On Samstag 07 Mai 2005 22:32, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote:
> Are there any plans for supporting ebuilds for windows apps which use
> wine? I just installed wine (via the ebuild) to enable DVDShrink to
> be installed. Worked like a charm, but it would have been much cooler
> to 'emerge dvdshrink' and have wine pulled in as a dependancy.

As things stand, Wine is not at all in a state that can be called stable, so 
what works with the monthly release of, say, april can very well break 
totally in june. To me that means there's not much use in providing ebuilds 
for something that is quite probable to break in four or eight weeks.

This should change with the arrival of Wine 0.9, which we'll hopefull see 
this year (planned for september, see the WineConf wrapup [1]), so from a 
technical POV, that issue might go away at least for some apps in the 
not-too-distant future.



Cheers,



David

[1] http://www.winehq.org/?issue=272



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Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for windows apps under wine?

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 22:32 +0200, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote:
> Are there any plans for supporting ebuilds for windows apps which use 
> wine? I just installed wine (via the ebuild) to enable DVDShrink to 
> be installed. Worked like a charm, but it would have been much cooler 
> to 'emerge dvdshrink' and have wine pulled in as a dependancy.
> 
> I realize there's a ton of stuff to take care of, but since the newer 
> windows version support 'sharing apps' among multiple user accounts, 
> there just might be a way to make them root-owned, or some such...
> 
> Anyone done any thining in this area?

We don't want to have to support a ton of closed-source Windows apps
that aren't native, so I seriously doubt that any developer would take
on such a task.

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Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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