Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

[Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>]

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On Sat, 7 May 2005 02:08:17 -0500 Brian Harring <ferringb@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| Re: changes, yes, things will need changes, and again, as stated 
| thrice, those who want the changes are the ones who are stuck doing 
| said changes.  In other words, the actual work required to 
| cleanse/correct the tree isn't getting dumped on ebuild devs as a
| whole.  

Isn't going to work. A lot of these changes need package-specific
knowledge that most people just don't have.

| In other words, you would be wise to snipe the suggested changes to 
| writing an ebuild, rather then dragging out example after example of 
| possible required changes to the tree.  The examples you're dragging 
| out basically come down to making sure the ebuild is 'correct' for the
| package.  I can just as quickly drag out example after example of 
| potential mistakes ebuild devs can make _now_.

No, they're a demonstration of why the GLEP in its current form is
inadequate. I'll carry on pulling up further examples until you realise
that it's not just a minor issue, it's a huge problem that needs a big
change to the GLEP.

| Remember that gleps go through several rounds of 
| discussion, I'd like to see this round keep moving rather then get 
| stuck in the mud.

The reason that this thing was written up as a GLEP was because the
author was trying to bypass the discussion and get around having to fix
various flaws that had been pointed out previously.

| Could you break it down to "if I'm going into home, I need xyz at the 
| home level rather then global/usr" ?

Hrm. Being able to say "I need xyz installed globally, and abc installed
either globally or at home level" would work if and only if there was a
way of finding out where abc and xyz had been installed.

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Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
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