From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j37HS9N8003148 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 17:28:09 GMT Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJanZ-0002Uk-89 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:28:09 +0000 Received: from d098166.adsl.hansenet.de[80.171.98.166] (helo=[192.168.72.2]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML21M-1DJanh0q7I-0000aE; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:28:17 +0200 From: Adrian Lambeck Organization: Basicsedv To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Thanks for your feedback Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 19:28:31 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200504071928.32128.adrian.lambeck@basicsedv.de> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:1ed8264d2d523f5bc75c98e83d035568 X-Archives-Salt: 21c3b5bd-6754-4fd9-9071-23ca11d62556 X-Archives-Hash: ff9579f6dac3ade1cae49caded520495 Everybody thanks for the feedback to my GLEP(35). The discussion about it started on 2005/03/13. What I figured out so far is that some proposed changes are already covered in repoman.That is even better because some of the work is already done then. But how come that there are still trivial errors if half of the GLEP is covered and everybody is using repoman? I agree that changes on ebuilds should be done only by the developers. I will change this point in the GLEP. To post errors to a website and send some mails is just a form of implementation that I do not worry about right now. To use both and let dev`s choose from it would be a good thing though. Somebody mentioned that I am not aware of gentoo dev practices. That`s right. I tried to become aware of it but I could not find anything useful. Maybe I have not found the right documents or there are none i.e. I do not want to read portage source to figure out what is going on. Maybe I should also add some motivation why to do this: There have been some talks about bringing Gentoo to the enterprise. For me this is not important and I do not care but this will never work if the quality is not checked at least to some degree. Also I do not like the mentality somebody put up that was like this: "I don`t mind fixing wrong URL`s - it is a matter of seconds." If you work for some customer (i.e. gentoo users) and they find simple errors that they might fix by themselves. What might they think ? Why not "kill" all these errors faster and take upon the hard things? I hat to open a root shell, fix the error, run the command again (find another error ?), start up firefox, login to bugs, check if somebody caught the error, file a bug .... hope you get the point. It might be possible that i.e. for ONE week one developer is responsible for fixing ALL broken URL`s of all packages (does he really need to know about the ebuild`s content ?). Although I don`t know how many broken URL`s there might be ... Please do not get me wrong like: somebody from "outside" tries to change the system. I love Gentoo and I think it is a great system but there are things I would like to improve. Adrian Lambeck -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list