[gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Dan Meltzer]

Seems like it could be to me... I just finally figured out what it meant... 

Possibilities for it include:
app-architecture (apps for designing things or archetecture specific programs?)
app-archive

possibly others, seems like renaming to app-archive would clear that
up and 3 letters isnt _that_ much to ask :/
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 620 bytes --]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:16:06 -0500 Dan Meltzer
<parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
| Seems like it could be to me... I just finally figured out what it
| meant... 
| 
| Possibilities for it include:
| app-architecture (apps for designing things or archetecture specific
| programs?) app-archive
| 
| possibly others, seems like renaming to app-archive would clear that
| up and 3 letters isnt _that_ much to ask :/

Read the metadata.xml :)

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Dan Meltzer]

Heh.. I did, but by that arguement why dont we just have
$PORTDIR/{A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V...}/ and let
them read the metadata to figure out what we mean


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:21:34 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:16:06 -0500 Dan Meltzer
> <parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Seems like it could be to me... I just finally figured out what it
> | meant...
> |
> | Possibilities for it include:
> | app-architecture (apps for designing things or archetecture specific
> | programs?) app-archive
> |
> | possibly others, seems like renaming to app-archive would clear that
> | up and 3 letters isnt _that_ much to ask :/
> 
> Read the metadata.xml :)
> 
> --
> Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
> Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
> Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm
> 
> 
>
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 458 bytes --]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:44 -0500 Dan Meltzer
<parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
| Heh.. I did, but by that arguement why dont we just have
| $PORTDIR/{A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V...}/ and let
| them read the metadata to figure out what we mean

No, that'd be silly.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Dan Meltzer]

It would save bandwith though!


On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:37:35 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:44 -0500 Dan Meltzer
> <parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Heh.. I did, but by that arguement why dont we just have
> | $PORTDIR/{A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V...}/ and let
> | them read the metadata to figure out what we mean
> 
> No, that'd be silly.
> 
> --
> Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
> Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
> Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm
> 
> 
>
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 370 bytes --]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:44:34 -0500 Dan Meltzer
<parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
| It would save bandwith though!

No it wouldn't, because we'd end up with a stupidly large set of
updates/ files.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Chris Gianelloni]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 419 bytes --]

On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 16:25 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
> Heh.. I did, but by that arguement why dont we just have
> $PORTDIR/{A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V...}/ and let
> them read the metadata to figure out what we mean

That sounds like a good idea.  Are you volunteering to write the GLEP?

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Anthony Gorecki]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 993 bytes --]

On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:21 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> <parallelgrapefruit@gmail.com> wrote:
> | Possibilities for it include:
> | app-architecture (apps for designing things or archetecture specific
> | programs?) app-archive
> |
> | possibly others, seems like renaming to app-archive would clear that
> | up and 3 letters isnt _that_ much to ask :/
>
> Read the metadata.xml :)

"app-architecture" was my the interpretation of "app-arch" until I read this 
thread, so Dan isn't alone in his feelings towards that name. app-archive 
would seem to make the most sense.

Looking at other categories, app-benchmarks is much more clear than app-benc.
Similarly, app-anti could also be construed as a variety of things, just as I 
believe app-lap would tend to invite carefully placed comments to the 
developers at opportune moments.

"RTM" is always an easy answer, but renaming the category would be more 
helpful.


-- 
Anthony Gorecki
Ectro-Linux Foundation

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 828 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 641 bytes --]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:07:56 -0800 Anthony Gorecki
<agorecki@ectrolinux.com> wrote:
| "RTM" is always an easy answer, but renaming the category would be
| more  helpful.

Have you any idea just how frickin' hard that would be? The names are
nice, clear, concise and obvious to people who have to work with them on
a regular basis. If you want better descriptions, I'm over half way
through implementing GLEP 34, so you'll have nice long textual
descriptions shortly.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Anthony Gorecki]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 931 bytes --]

On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:17 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Have you any idea just how frickin' hard that would be?

Unfortunately. A few simple scripts could be made to shorten the required 
amount of manual conversions; at the least, it would be nothing like 
segregating the KDE ebuilds again. If all else fails, I'm certain that we 
could enslave ferringb and assign him to the task.


> The names are 
> nice, clear, concise and obvious to people who have to work with them on
> a regular basis.

"NGSCB" is perfectly clear to many Microsoft employees and those with an 
obfuscation shredder-- it may not be so clear to end users, news reporters 
and potential critics. Likewise, having a category named as a single letter, 
for example, might be perfectly clear to the developers and developer 
community members, but it would be obscure to everyone else.


-- 
Anthony Gorecki
Ectro-Linux Foundation

[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 828 bytes --]

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-arch ambiguous?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1329 bytes --]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:28:01 -0800 Anthony Gorecki
<agorecki@ectrolinux.com> wrote:
| On Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:17 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > Have you any idea just how frickin' hard that would be?
| 
| Unfortunately. A few simple scripts could be made to shorten the
| required  amount of manual conversions; at the least, it would be
| nothing like  segregating the KDE ebuilds again. If all else fails,
| I'm certain that we  could enslave ferringb and assign him to the
| task.

We have the script. The script isn't the problem.

| > The names are 
| > nice, clear, concise and obvious to people who have to work with
| > them on a regular basis.
| 
| "NGSCB" is perfectly clear to many Microsoft employees and those with
| an  obfuscation shredder-- it may not be so clear to end users, news
| reporters  and potential critics. Likewise, having a category named as
| a single letter,  for example, might be perfectly clear to the
| developers and developer  community members, but it would be obscure
| to everyone else.

That's ok, everyone else is using the newly committed long descriptions
that were made for that purpose.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


[-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]