From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from phaenix.haell.com (c-24-10-82-41.client.comcast.net [24.10.82.41]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2MBBWG6020909 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 11:11:32 GMT Received: by phaenix.haell.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 816A91E838A0; Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:11:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:11:31 -0800 From: Drake Wyrm To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@robin.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mmxext flag Message-ID: <20050322111131.GA1180@phaenix.haell.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@robin.gentoo.org References: <1111393195.7919.50.camel@rift.ath.cx> <20050321211217.GA28215@phaenix.haell.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: , , List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Arch: athlon_tbird-gentoo-linux-gnu X-Fnord: There is no conspiracy X-Fortune: Sex is better than grass, if you have the right pusher. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Archives-Salt: aa3dab1e-1bac-4422-bef8-15e6f0e9d6c0 X-Archives-Hash: 87189a36a33de321d3707b746f7e2ea4 Message-ID: <20050322111131.uYvjPzlUI6B5QX3sp9kG0C7kwV-zlZEby0l0w4V8jv4@z> --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2005-03-21T21:19:21+0000, Ryan Hill wrote: > Drake Wyrm haell.com> writes: > > At 2005-03-21T09:19:53+0100, David Holm gentoo.org> > > wrote: > > > Isn't mmxext the same as mmx2 btw? > >=20 > > Basically, yeah. "MMX2" is the trade name for the "mmxext" > > instruction set. Or "mmxext" is the flag that indicates the presence > > of the "MMX2" instruction set. However you want to look at it. > >=20 > > Either way, if you want an authoritative source as to which to use, > > I'd suggest /proc/cpuinfo. > >=20 >=20 > MMX2 is supported by Pentium 3 Katmai and Coppermine processors. > MMXEXT is supported by Athlon processors. As far as I can tell > they're two very different things. I'm confused. You, and a lot of other people. Also, I should correct my earlier statement. "MMX2" is _a_ marketing name for the "Extensions to the MMX Instruction Set", which were apparently introduced in the AMD-K6-2E+ and AMD-K6-IIIE+. You're right, though; the Athlon was the first mainline processor with mmx(2|ext). These extensions were subsequently adopted by Intel into the Pentium II much in the same way AMD adopted Intel's original MultiMedia eXtensions. In my further research on the subject, it looks like Intel has been of late bragging up it's whiz-bang new "Intel Wireless MMX2 Technology". It's apparently an instruction set extension targeted at all-in-one cell-phone-camera-music-player-PDA gadgets. As far as I can tell, it's the only time Intel has used the term "MMX2". Therefore, I recommend the use of "mmxext" to refer to the original multimedia extensions extensions, to avoid aggravating an already-confusing situation. --=20 Batou: Hey, Major... You ever hear of "human rights"? Kusanagi: I understand the concept, but I've never seen it in action. --Ghost in the Shell --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkI//WIACgkQQWVmeKdhp/JqmgCgjsWvvy/aSizie3B414VDWTfa 5agAoJsvbtz/nmfUv3tcHpsBon+YrxGu =ARCu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list