[gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Chris White]

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Devs,

    I will be initiating the splitup of the avi global use flag into avi 
and win32codecs shortly.  The reasoning behind this is that the avi USE 
flag encompases both avifile and win32codecs support.  The reasoning 
behind this is that avifile is cross platform, but win32codecs is not 
(x86 or amd64 with x86 emulation libraries iirc).  That said, it makes 
no sense to have one USE flag take on both a cross platform and 
non-cross platform compatible package dep (you can't arch use mask it).  
Therefore, I ask the following:

1) All arches please put win32codecs into  your appropriate arch use 
mask.  If you'd rather have this as a bug, simply respond and one will 
be created.
2) the following apps:
    app-misc/evidence
    media-gfx/pornview
    media-gfx/swftools

are not part of the media-video category.  My intention is to do all the 
splits gradually so as not to break too many things and create less of a 
load on the cvs server.  That said, if you DON'T want me touching the 
above applications, please state so and I will coordinate with you on 
the split.  When I have confirmed that everyone is ready for the split, 
I will begin it.  That's it.

-- 
Chris White <chriswhite@gentoo.org>
------------------------
Sound   | Video   | PPC
ChrisWhite @ irc.freenode.net


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[OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Peter Gordon]

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Just to let you know, Chris: You're GPG signature was broken on that mail.

gpg: Signature made Thu 10 Mar 2005 10:35:54 PM PST using DSA key ID 5A0080DE
gpg: BAD signature from "Chris White (Sound | Video | Security Developer)
<chriswhite@gentoo.org>"

Something wrong with EnigMail perhaps? I had troubles with it and GnuPG 1.4.0
until I upgraded the EnigMail extension to 0.90.1.0 from enigmail.mozdev.org.
(I use the mozilla-thunderbird-bin package.)

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/\  vCards, and proprietary formats.
---------------------------------------------------
Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42)
E-Mail: admin@ramshacklestudios.com
GPG Public Key ID: 0x109DBECE
GPG Key Fingerprint (SHA1):
   E485 E2F7 11CE F9B2 E3D9 C95D 208F B732 109D BECE
Encrypted and/or Signed correspondence preffered.
GPG Public Key available upon request or from
   pgp.mit.edu's public key server.
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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 11:18:35PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> Just to let you know, Chris: You're GPG signature was broken on that mail.
> 
> gpg: Signature made Thu 10 Mar 2005 10:35:54 PM PST using DSA key ID 
> 5A0080DE
> gpg: BAD signature from "Chris White (Sound | Video | Security Developer)
> <chriswhite@gentoo.org>"
> 
> Something wrong with EnigMail perhaps? I had troubles with it and
> GnuPG 1.4.0 until I upgraded the EnigMail extension to 0.90.1.0 from
> enigmail.mozdev.org.  (I use the mozilla-thunderbird-bin package.)

I think your mail client is broken...
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gpg: Signature made Thu Mar 10 22:35:54 2005 PST using DSA key ID 5A0080DE
gpg: Good signature from "Chris White (Sound | Video | Security Developer) <chriswhite@gentoo.org>"
gpg:                 aka "Chris White <webmaster@securesystem.info>"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: BE53 4B73 60F0 DF2C 2714  5C94 15D4 3059 5A00 80DE
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-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
E-Mail     : robbat2@orbis-terrarum.net
Home Page  : http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/?l=people.robbat2
ICQ#       : 30269588 or 41961639
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Peter Gordon]

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Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I think your mail client is broken...

Dag nab it! Nevermind my reply...

That's very odd behavior from GPG....


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/\  vCards, and proprietary formats.
---------------------------------------------------
Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42)
E-Mail: admin@ramshacklestudios.com
GPG Public Key ID: 0x109DBECE
GPG Key Fingerprint (SHA1):
   E485 E2F7 11CE F9B2 E3D9 C95D 208F B732 109D BECE
Encrypted and/or Signed correspondence preffered.
GPG Public Key available upon request or from
   pgp.mit.edu's public key server.
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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 23:40 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > I think your mail client is broken...
> 
> Dag nab it! Nevermind my reply...
> 
> That's very odd behavior from GPG....
> 

I think its a keyserver thing - yours is valid, Robin and Chris's
is invalid here too ...


-- 
Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa


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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 23:40 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> > Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > > I think your mail client is broken...
> > Dag nab it! Nevermind my reply...
> > That's very odd behavior from GPG....
> I think its a keyserver thing - yours is valid, Robin and Chris's
> is invalid here too ...
My key should up to date on all major key-servers, as I've been doing a lot
with it lately.

I know all of these servers are up to date:
wwwkeys.pgp.net [all 10 servers]
subkeys.pgp.net [all 5 servers]
pgp.mit.edu
keyserver.kjsl.com
the.earth.li

The expiry date of my key should be 2008-03-09. If it's older than this, you
have an old copy of my key.

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
E-Mail     : robbat2@orbis-terrarum.net
Home Page  : http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/?l=people.robbat2
ICQ#       : 30269588 or 41961639
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 02:06 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 23:40 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> > > Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > > > I think your mail client is broken...
> > > Dag nab it! Nevermind my reply...
> > > That's very odd behavior from GPG....
> > I think its a keyserver thing - yours is valid, Robin and Chris's
> > is invalid here too ...
> My key should up to date on all major key-servers, as I've been doing a lot
> with it lately.
> 
> I know all of these servers are up to date:
> wwwkeys.pgp.net [all 10 servers]
> subkeys.pgp.net [all 5 servers]
> pgp.mit.edu
> keyserver.kjsl.com
> the.earth.li
> 
> The expiry date of my key should be 2008-03-09. If it's older than this, you
> have an old copy of my key.

-- 
Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa


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[gentoo-dev] Key mystery, possible solved - subkeys!

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > I know all of these servers are up to date:
> > wwwkeys.pgp.net [all 10 servers]
> > subkeys.pgp.net [all 5 servers]
> > pgp.mit.edu
> > keyserver.kjsl.com
> > the.earth.li
> > 
> > The expiry date of my key should be 2008-03-09. If it's older than this, you
> > have an old copy of my key.
>  [screenshot of pgp.mit.edu not having my key]
Ah, that explains it. I sign my email with a specific subkey. I use
another subkey for Gentoo ebuild signing. I have a few other subkeys for
other purposes, and using subkeys you can still preserve your identity,
while being able to change the actual key hash you use for doing things.

pgp.mit.edu doesn't supported subkeys. Only four servers in
wwwkeys.pgp.net rotation are sub-key capable.

All of subkeys.pgp.net, keyserver.kjsl.com, the.earth.li are sub-key
capable, and behave correctly.

keyserver.net used to be decent and support subkeys, but they were
bought out by veredis and the service has gone badly downhill.

I've posted my latest key up here:
http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/robbat2-gnupg-key-with-subkeys.gpg

Import it, and see if your mail clients still complain.

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
E-Mail     : robbat2@orbis-terrarum.net
Home Page  : http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/?l=people.robbat2
ICQ#       : 30269588 or 41961639
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Key mystery, possible solved - subkeys!

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 03:11 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > > I know all of these servers are up to date:
> > > wwwkeys.pgp.net [all 10 servers]
> > > subkeys.pgp.net [all 5 servers]
> > > pgp.mit.edu
> > > keyserver.kjsl.com
> > > the.earth.li
> > > 
> > > The expiry date of my key should be 2008-03-09. If it's older than this, you
> > > have an old copy of my key.
> >  [screenshot of pgp.mit.edu not having my key]
> Ah, that explains it. I sign my email with a specific subkey. I use
> another subkey for Gentoo ebuild signing. I have a few other subkeys for
> other purposes, and using subkeys you can still preserve your identity,
> while being able to change the actual key hash you use for doing things.
> 
> pgp.mit.edu doesn't supported subkeys. Only four servers in
> wwwkeys.pgp.net rotation are sub-key capable.
> 
> All of subkeys.pgp.net, keyserver.kjsl.com, the.earth.li are sub-key
> capable, and behave correctly.
> 
> keyserver.net used to be decent and support subkeys, but they were
> bought out by veredis and the service has gone badly downhill.
> 
> I've posted my latest key up here:
> http://www.orbis-terrarum.net/robbat2-gnupg-key-with-subkeys.gpg
> 
> Import it, and see if your mail clients still complain.
> 

Changed the keyserver fixes it as well - ps, can you specify more than
one keyserver line, or more than one server per line ?  The manual do
not seem to touch that ...


-- 
Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Key mystery, possible solved - subkeys!

[Aron Griffis]

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Robin H. Johnson wrote:	[Fri Mar 11 2005, 06:11:43AM EST]
> pgp.mit.edu doesn't supported subkeys. Only four servers in
> wwwkeys.pgp.net rotation are sub-key capable.
> 
> All of subkeys.pgp.net, keyserver.kjsl.com, the.earth.li are sub-key
> capable, and behave correctly.
> 
> keyserver.net used to be decent and support subkeys, but they were
> bought out by veredis and the service has gone badly downhill.

Would it make sense to add keyserver.gentoo.org as a CNAME for one of
these that works well?  It sounds like you know what servers to use,
but I've always been in the dark, and I'm sure most other people are.
With a CNAME we could all just use keyserver.gentoo.org and you could
change it if there's good reason.

Regards,
Aron

--
Aron Griffis
Gentoo Linux Developer


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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Luke-Jr]

On Friday 11 March 2005 07:24, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 11:18:35PM -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> > Just to let you know, Chris: You're GPG signature was broken on that
> > mail.
>
> I think your mail client is broken...

Actually, both ChrisWhite's and your signatures show up as bad under KMail 
CVS... I think this is usually caused by a newline being added/removed 
between signing and sending, but I'm not sure where the bug is since CW and 
Peter use EnigMail, you use Mutt, and I use KMail... not really any common 
program to fit to the symptoms.
-- 
Luke-Jr
Developer, Utopios
http://utopios.org/
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Graham Murray]

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Luke-Jr <luke-jr@utopios.org> writes:

> Actually, both ChrisWhite's and your signatures show up as bad under KMail 
> CVS... I think this is usually caused by a newline being added/removed 
> between signing and sending, but I'm not sure where the bug is since CW and 
> Peter use EnigMail, you use Mutt, and I use KMail... not really any common 
> program to fit to the symptoms.

And they both show as bad here using gnus-cvs.

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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Brad Cowan]

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On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 09:26 +0000, Graham Murray wrote:
> Luke-Jr <luke-jr@utopios.org> writes:
> 
> > Actually, both ChrisWhite's and your signatures show up as bad under KMail 
> > CVS... I think this is usually caused by a newline being added/removed 
> > between signing and sending, but I'm not sure where the bug is since CW and 
> > Peter use EnigMail, you use Mutt, and I use KMail... not really any common 
> > program to fit to the symptoms.
> 
> And they both show as bad here using gnus-cvs.

Weird only Robin's shows bad here, fingerprint from sig isn't matching
the key it's trying to retrieve. Chris's shows up fine.


-- 
Brad Cowan <bcowan@gentoo.org>
Developer,
Gentoo Linux    http://www.gentoo.org/~bcowan

Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB1F16A56
Key fingerprint = C408 75B9 E68D 26E2 EAAE  20CF 4D5E 293D B1F1 6A56

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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Georgi Georgiev]

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maillog: 11/03/2005-05:48:58(-0500): Brad Cowan types
> On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 09:26 +0000, Graham Murray wrote:
> > Luke-Jr <luke-jr@utopios.org> writes:
> > 
> > > Actually, both ChrisWhite's and your signatures show up as bad under KMail 
> > > CVS... I think this is usually caused by a newline being added/removed 
> > > between signing and sending, but I'm not sure where the bug is since CW and 
> > > Peter use EnigMail, you use Mutt, and I use KMail... not really any common 
> > > program to fit to the symptoms.
> > 
> > And they both show as bad here using gnus-cvs.
> 
> Weird only Robin's shows bad here, fingerprint from sig isn't matching
> the key it's trying to retrieve. Chris's shows up fine.

Just the oposite here.
- Chris' -- bad
- Robin's -- good.

-- 
 >   Georgi Georgiev    > Never give an inch!                           >
<     chutz@gg3.net    <                                               <
 >  +81(90)6266-1163    >                                               >

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Re: [OT Reply] Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 23:18 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
> Just to let you know, Chris: You're GPG signature was broken on that mail.
> 
> gpg: Signature made Thu 10 Mar 2005 10:35:54 PM PST using DSA key ID 5A0080DE
> gpg: BAD signature from "Chris White (Sound | Video | Security Developer)
> <chriswhite@gentoo.org>"
> 
> Something wrong with EnigMail perhaps? I had troubles with it and GnuPG 1.4.0
> until I upgraded the EnigMail extension to 0.90.1.0 from enigmail.mozdev.org.
> (I use the mozilla-thunderbird-bin package.)

Except it wasn't broken on bad here, running evolution.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Hardave Riar]

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Chris White wrote:
> 1) All arches please put win32codecs into  your appropriate arch use 
> mask.  If you'd rather have this as a bug, simply respond and one will 
> be created.

Since this will be enabled on only two archs, it would make more sence 
to use.mask it globally in default-linux, and then unmask it in those 
archs that can use it.

Hardave

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Re: [gentoo-dev] win32codecs and avi global use flag split being intiated

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Fri, 2005-03-11 at 15:35 +0900, Chris White wrote:
> Devs,
> 
>     I will be initiating the splitup of the avi global use flag into avi 
> and win32codecs shortly.  The reasoning behind this is that the avi USE 
> flag encompases both avifile and win32codecs support.  The reasoning 
> behind this is that avifile is cross platform, but win32codecs is not 
> (x86 or amd64 with x86 emulation libraries iirc).  That said, it makes 
> no sense to have one USE flag take on both a cross platform and 
> non-cross platform compatible package dep (you can't arch use mask it).  
> Therefore, I ask the following:
> 
> 1) All arches please put win32codecs into  your appropriate arch use 
> mask.  If you'd rather have this as a bug, simply respond and one will 
> be created.
> 2) the following apps:
>     app-misc/evidence
>     media-gfx/pornview
>     media-gfx/swftools
> 
> are not part of the media-video category.  My intention is to do all the 
> splits gradually so as not to break too many things and create less of a 
> load on the cvs server.  That said, if you DON'T want me touching the 
> above applications, please state so and I will coordinate with you on 
> the split.  When I have confirmed that everyone is ready for the split, 
> I will begin it.  That's it.
> 

PS: on to the topic again - I think its a good thing, as some people do
not like the avi USE flag pulling in the binary codecs, but still want
avi support ...


-- 
Martin Schlemmer
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer
Cape Town, South Africa


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