[gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Aaron Walker]

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I've been meaning to send this for a while.. it's been sitting on toucan for
months (thanks for the nudge ciaranm).

http://dev.gentoo.org/~ka0ttic/tmp/svn-glep.txt

comments?
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[gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Holger Hoffstaette]

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:12:04 -0500, Aaron Walker wrote:

> http://dev.gentoo.org/~ka0ttic/tmp/svn-glep.txt
> 
> comments?

Please recommend that people use fsfs type repositories until the
'occasional' bdb repository munching has been solved (though AFAIR that is
related to mod_dav_svn). It will also allow people to upgrade their
berkeleydb installation with less risk.

-h


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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Dan Armak]

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On Thursday 10 March 2005 18:12, Aaron Walker wrote:
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~ka0ttic/tmp/svn-glep.txt
>
> comments?
I'm a fan of subversion. Hosted an ebuild overlay (the original kde split 
ebuilds) at berlios.de because we only had cvs. So I'm obviously glad to see 
this :-)

You write that subversion supports changesets, but AFAIK it doesn't, and the 
Subversion Book seems to confirm this. What exactly do you mean by 
changesets? I'm not sure what changesets are myself, but fex. there's no SVN 
format for describing a commit's contents (properties, moves, ...) which can 
be applied to a working copy (as svn merge would).

I see nothing else to comment on in the protoGLEP, as it has nothing 
Gentoo-specific in it... For people familiar with svn, the Abstract and 
Motivation are the only interesting parts.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Martin Schlemmer]

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On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 20:19 +0200, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Thursday 10 March 2005 18:12, Aaron Walker wrote:
> > http://dev.gentoo.org/~ka0ttic/tmp/svn-glep.txt
> >
> > comments?
> I'm a fan of subversion. Hosted an ebuild overlay (the original kde split 
> ebuilds) at berlios.de because we only had cvs. So I'm obviously glad to see 
> this :-)
> 

Big yes here too.

> You write that subversion supports changesets, but AFAIK it doesn't, and the 
> Subversion Book seems to confirm this. What exactly do you mean by 
> changesets? I'm not sure what changesets are myself, but fex. there's no SVN 
> format for describing a commit's contents (properties, moves, ...) which can 
> be applied to a working copy (as svn merge would).
> 

Hrm, I would like this cleared up as well, as I also was made to think
it could ...


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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Dan Armak]

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On Friday 11 March 2005 02:06, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 20:19 +0200, Dan Armak wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 March 2005 18:12, Aaron Walker wrote:
> > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~ka0ttic/tmp/svn-glep.txt
> > >
> > > comments?
> >
> > I'm a fan of subversion. Hosted an ebuild overlay (the original kde split
> > ebuilds) at berlios.de because we only had cvs. So I'm obviously glad to
> > see this :-)
>
> Big yes here too.
>
> > You write that subversion supports changesets, but AFAIK it doesn't, and
> > the Subversion Book seems to confirm this. What exactly do you mean by
> > changesets? I'm not sure what changesets are myself, but fex. there's no
> > SVN format for describing a commit's contents (properties, moves, ...)
> > which can be applied to a working copy (as svn merge would).
>
> Hrm, I would like this cleared up as well, as I also was made to think
> it could ...
Looking at the svn docs again, they call the changes made by a revision a 
changeset. But they do make the point that what I described above is 
impossible - IOW svn merge can't accept output to a file, and svn diff only 
outputs the info an ordinary diff does. svn also can't track these changesets 
when porting between branches (arch is supposed to be good at this) - the 
docs advise you to put 'ported rev X from branch Y' as the commit message 
when porting.

So svn does support what they call 'changesets' - but in svn parlance, 
changesets don't really mean anything...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP XX: Subversion for Gentoo Hosted Projects

[Dan Armak]

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On Friday 11 March 2005 18:58, Dan Armak wrote:
> Looking at the svn docs again, they call the changes made by a revision a
> changeset. But they do make the point that what I described above is
> impossible - IOW svn merge can't accept output to a file, and svn diff only
> outputs the info an ordinary diff does. 
Err of course 'svn merge can't accept input from a file'.

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