[gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Collins Richey]

Can anyone provide suggestions about how to debug this problem. I
opened the bug in September, but it's received no attention. I've
tried numerous combinations of xorg (6.7 and 6.8), xscreensaver (4.15
and 4.16) , gtk+, etc., but the problem persists. The basic problem is
this: if I run xscreensaver or xscreensaver-demo and certain
screensavers are selected (Atlantis is one example), the X server
crashes. I get no additional info logged by xorg when the failure
occurs. I have a SIS650 internal card, and I don't find any real
matches (some hits on SIS650, but not my problem) of this problem
using google.

Other things like gimp and mplayer that are video intensive work just fine.

Perhaps this is an xorg problem, but I know from past experience that
xorg considers bugs reported by normal users like myself to be "noise"
and nothing will be done.

Any help would be appreciated.

I also asked on gentoo-user (see thread: Problems with xscreensaver and xorg).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Chris Bainbridge]

Without any more details it's difficult to tell what the problem is.
Since theres no output you'd probably have to run xorg under gdb. The
gdb-6.0-r1 ebuild has the patch for debugging symbols in xfree/xorg
drivers; I'm not sure if the others  do.  Then recompile xorg with
'debug' in your USE flags. Run xorg under gdb (see
http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org/DebuggingTheXserver for some hints).
Hopefully when it crashes you should now be able to get a backtrace,
which will point the way to the problem.


On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:20:51 -0700, Collins Richey <crichey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone provide suggestions about how to debug this problem. I
> opened the bug in September, but it's received no attention. I've
> tried numerous combinations of xorg (6.7 and 6.8), xscreensaver (4.15
> and 4.16) , gtk+, etc., but the problem persists. The basic problem is
> this: if I run xscreensaver or xscreensaver-demo and certain
> screensavers are selected (Atlantis is one example), the X server
> crashes. I get no additional info logged by xorg when the failure
> occurs. I have a SIS650 internal card, and I don't find any real
> matches (some hits on SIS650, but not my problem) of this problem
> using google.
> 
> Other things like gimp and mplayer that are video intensive work just fine.
> 
> Perhaps this is an xorg problem, but I know from past experience that
> xorg considers bugs reported by normal users like myself to be "noise"
> and nothing will be done.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> I also asked on gentoo-user (see thread: Problems with xscreensaver and xorg).
> 
> --
>  Collins
> 
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> 
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Per-Erik Westerberg]

If you have non working 3D accelerated OpenGL and start a screensaver
that uses OpenGL to do it's graphics, like Atlantis does, then you will
experience exactly this problem. X will crash when the OpenGL
accelerated screensaver module starts. Make sure that OpenGL works and
your problem will be gone.

  BR / Per-Erik

sön 2004-11-14 klockan 11:16 +0000 skrev Chris Bainbridge:
> Without any more details it's difficult to tell what the problem is.
> Since theres no output you'd probably have to run xorg under gdb. The
> gdb-6.0-r1 ebuild has the patch for debugging symbols in xfree/xorg
> drivers; I'm not sure if the others  do.  Then recompile xorg with
> 'debug' in your USE flags. Run xorg under gdb (see
> http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org/DebuggingTheXserver for some hints).
> Hopefully when it crashes you should now be able to get a backtrace,
> which will point the way to the problem.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 15:20:51 -0700, Collins Richey <crichey@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can anyone provide suggestions about how to debug this problem. I
> > opened the bug in September, but it's received no attention. I've
> > tried numerous combinations of xorg (6.7 and 6.8), xscreensaver (4.15
> > and 4.16) , gtk+, etc., but the problem persists. The basic problem is
> > this: if I run xscreensaver or xscreensaver-demo and certain
> > screensavers are selected (Atlantis is one example), the X server
> > crashes. I get no additional info logged by xorg when the failure
> > occurs. I have a SIS650 internal card, and I don't find any real
> > matches (some hits on SIS650, but not my problem) of this problem
> > using google.
> > 
> > Other things like gimp and mplayer that are video intensive work just fine.
> > 
> > Perhaps this is an xorg problem, but I know from past experience that
> > xorg considers bugs reported by normal users like myself to be "noise"
> > and nothing will be done.
> > 
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> > 
> > I also asked on gentoo-user (see thread: Problems with xscreensaver and xorg).
> > 
> > --
> >  Collins
> > 
> > --
> > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
> > 
> >
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Tom Martin]

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On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 03:20:51PM -0700, Collins Richey <crichey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can anyone provide suggestions about how to debug this problem. I
> opened the bug in September, but it's received no attention. I've
> tried numerous combinations of xorg (6.7 and 6.8), xscreensaver (4.15
> and 4.16) , gtk+, etc., but the problem persists. The basic problem is
> this: if I run xscreensaver or xscreensaver-demo and certain
> screensavers are selected (Atlantis is one example), the X server
> crashes. I get no additional info logged by xorg when the failure
> occurs. I have a SIS650 internal card, and I don't find any real
> matches (some hits on SIS650, but not my problem) of this problem
> using google.

Are you using composite too?

If you are, I'd recommend either choosing composite, or glx. Just not
both.

By the way, could everyone in this thread PLEASE stop top-posting?


Tom
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Stuart Herbert]

On Sunday 14 November 2004 17:52, Tom Martin wrote:
> By the way, could everyone in this thread PLEASE stop top-posting?
>
> Tom

Be even better if everyone could go one further and take this to 
gentoo-users@g.o, which is where it belongs.

Many thanks,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #64656 - Problems with xscreensaver and xorg

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On Sun, 2004-11-14 at 11:16 +0000, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> Without any more details it's difficult to tell what the problem is.
> Since theres no output you'd probably have to run xorg under gdb. The
> gdb-6.0-r1 ebuild has the patch for debugging symbols in xfree/xorg
> drivers; I'm not sure if the others  do.  Then recompile xorg with
> 'debug' in your USE flags. Run xorg under gdb (see
> http://xfree86.linuxwiki.org/DebuggingTheXserver for some hints).
> Hopefully when it crashes you should now be able to get a backtrace,
> which will point the way to the problem.

Don't worry about the gdb patch. Just build xorg with USE="debug
dlloader" to get "standard" modules w/ debugging info.

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