From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev-return-17236-arch-gentoo-dev=gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: (qmail 5617 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2004 02:43:06 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Nov 2004 02:43:06 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CQzUo-0004ia-Hi for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2004 02:43:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 13017 invoked by uid 89); 8 Nov 2004 02:43:05 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 25808 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2004 02:43:05 +0000 From: George Shapovalov <george@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Linux To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:43:00 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <418E8732.3040203@gentoo.org> <200411071412.02489.george@gentoo.org> <20041107234750.GE26428@time.flatmonk.org> In-Reply-To: <20041107234750.GE26428@time.flatmonk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411071843.00936.george@gentoo.org> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 tagged_above=-100000.0 required=5.0 X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [LARGE MESSAGE] Media-sound reorganization! X-Archives-Salt: 53d19d3e-e71f-4dc3-90a9-f40f6185d584 X-Archives-Hash: 140a48627d3955646ccd99f796d4e566 I was first going to leave the thread at that, but I am feeling a bit graphomanic :). In any case I just wanted to say a few words describing "scientific" basis for multi-tier and hierarchies in general. On Sunday 07 November 2004 15:47, Aron Griffis wrote: > George Shapovalov wrote: [Sun Nov 07 2004, 05:12:02PM EST] > I don't see how multi-tier categories makes things more findable > personally. IMHO it just makes things more buried. I like the > two-tier approach we have now: Some recent philosophical, err :), psychological studies concluded that person normally deals best with 7-9 objects simultaneously. Less than that and you have to make your "chain of command" unnecessarily deep. More than that and you start spending more time searching around or trying to remember what every one of these these is about. (Don't remember where I saw it now; my wife is a psychologist, that's most likely where :)). This is essentially the reason why we use hierarchies so widely. If every person was able to easily memorise and deal with indefinitely large lists we wouldn't be organizing stuff at all, why bother if you can just come in at any moment and pick exactly that regularly gray box of standard size in a big pile on the floor :). Now, that 7-9 is an average. I believe the deal is that every person has some individual "most effective number" but the distribution peaks somewhere in that range and is not very wide.. Incidentally we have exactly 8 major top-level categories ;) : app-, dev-, games-, mail-, net-, sys-, www-, x11- there are also a few which are essentially unitier, where there are only 1 or 2 second-level's for every unique 1st level, gnustep-* seem to be the largest of all, with 3. But then we have a total of 127 categories, which is > 9x9=81, so we wouldn't be able to follow that rule with two-tier already anyway. BTW, I don't think we really need to follow that rule for the leaves (I mean packages), we can easily stick to 40-50 max for example.. With that I am going to leave this thread and only post any more if there going to be a technicall discussion. Oh, just one last thing :). I am about to propose yet another split. I think some people already know what I imply, but in any case stay tuned :). George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list