From: "Joshua J. Berry" <condordes@gentoo.org>
To: Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:09:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040920060936.GA19303@deneb.condordes.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409200710.09718.danarmak@gentoo.org>
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:10:02AM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Monday 20 September 2004 01:35, Joshua J. Berry wrote:
> > No, it's not special, but I think most people probably won't want a PATH
> > variable that's 10,000 directories long. ;) The only thing that makes it
> > "special" IMHO is how big it is.
> That isn't affected by our choice of /usr/kde or /opt. 10,000 PATH dirs
> under /opt are equally as bad. So I don't see your point here?
Assuming I understood you correctly, you made the point that if KDE goes into
/opt and gets its own directory, others might want to do that too ...
My point is that KDE should be an exception to the
"packages-shouldn't-have-their-own-dirs" rule because it's so big.
> Is it that you
> want to decrease the sheer amount of files in the /usr filesystem?
I would like to keep the pollution in /usr down, yes.
> As far as
> I'm concerned, all portage-installed packages ought to go in /usr except for
> those that go in /bin /lib etc; the usage of /opt has so far meant the
> package was lacking in some respect.
I don't know. Maybe it makes more sense to me because that's just always the
way I've installed KDE -- separate from everything else. I can see the benefits
of the "everything-in-/usr" argument too (pollution notwithstanding).
It seems like a lot of people prefer to have Qt/KDE split out from the normal
/usr tree. But some people are complaining because /usr/kde doesn't follow the
FHS.
/opt keeps both groups happy. It keeps KDE separate (and lets you install
multiple versions side-by-side), and it follows the FHS. Except now we have a
third group of people who don't like /opt ... and I guess I don't understand why
that is. What do people have against /opt (yes, I know about current Gentoo
policy)?
--
Joshua J. Berry
"I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
-- /usr/games/fortune
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-19 19:50 [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? Thomas Weidner
2004-09-19 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-19 20:06 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:16 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:26 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 22:23 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 8:41 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 20:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 21:23 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 23:38 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 8:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 9:47 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:56 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 19:52 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:40 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 18:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:45 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 22:35 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 4:10 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 4:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-20 4:47 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 6:09 ` Joshua J. Berry [this message]
2004-09-20 9:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 15:55 ` Sami Samhuri
2004-09-20 16:22 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:36 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:19 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 17:36 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 22:58 ` foser
2004-09-20 17:42 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 18:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-09-21 11:02 ` Duncan
2004-09-21 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 4:58 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 9:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 7:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Watson
2004-09-19 20:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 2:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Croisant
2004-09-28 8:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 9:24 ` Peter Ruskin
2004-09-28 9:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 20:32 ` John Croisant
2004-09-29 9:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luke-Jr
2004-09-19 23:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Weidner
2004-09-20 0:03 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 0:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-20 3:50 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-21 5:10 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 17:29 ` Helmar Wieland
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