From: Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:37:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409192338.00639.danarmak@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040919202601.GB13163@deneb.condordes.net>
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On Sunday 19 September 2004 23:26, Joshua J. Berry wrote:
> I could easily see KDE/Qt being treated as an "add-on", given that (a)
> they're not necessary for core system functionality (whatever that means),
Er, so does that mean anything not in the system profile should go in /opt?
I'd say qt/kde is as important a piece of a dekstop system using it as any
other.
> and (b) they are both heavily-bloated,
Bloated in what respect? Size, speed? And what does it have to do with where
we install them to?
> and you probably don't want to
> pollute /usr...
It's true that I don't want to, only I don't see a better solution.
If there's a general consensus on moving to /opt I can live with that, because
it doesn't affect the ebuilds/eclasses/results one bit. It's just that it's
entirely inconsistent with the way we're using /opt right now.
And what if, in a year from now, twenty other projects will decide it's good
for the users to allow many versions to be installed side by side? Will we
move everything to /opt? My point here is that kde itself is not special in
any way (although qt arguably is, since you do want different qt2 and qt3
programs side by side, but then the qt libraries could live together in /usr
with some effort). It's just that kde users asked for this functionality a
lot, so I added it. Apart from running two stable trees, kde developers use
this to run a stable tree and cvs HEAD.
<snip>
> I really do think this is what /opt was intended for. "Add-on" sounds to
> me like it's one of those purposefully open-ended words that you can
> interpret however you like. Actually, the whole section on /opt in the FHS
> reads that way ...
Well, I simply don't know what they mean by add-on, so obviously you can
interpret it however you like :-)
However, isn't there -any- consensus on what this is supposed to mean? Can we
just ask the FHS guys if this is so unclear? (And cf. what Ciaran just
replied.)
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-19 19:50 [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? Thomas Weidner
2004-09-19 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-19 20:06 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:16 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:26 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 22:23 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 8:41 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 20:37 ` Dan Armak [this message]
2004-09-19 21:23 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 23:38 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 8:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 9:47 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:56 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 19:52 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:40 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 18:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:45 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 22:35 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 4:10 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 4:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-20 4:47 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 6:09 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 9:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 15:55 ` Sami Samhuri
2004-09-20 16:22 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:36 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:19 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 17:36 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 22:58 ` foser
2004-09-20 17:42 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 18:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-09-21 11:02 ` Duncan
2004-09-21 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 4:58 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 9:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 7:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Watson
2004-09-19 20:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 2:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Croisant
2004-09-28 8:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 9:24 ` Peter Ruskin
2004-09-28 9:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 20:32 ` John Croisant
2004-09-29 9:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luke-Jr
2004-09-19 23:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Weidner
2004-09-20 0:03 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 0:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-20 3:50 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-21 5:10 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 17:29 ` Helmar Wieland
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