From: "Malte S. Stretz" <msquadrat.nospamplease@gmx.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:23:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409192323.23736@malte.stretz.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409192338.00639.danarmak@gentoo.org>
On Sunday 19 September 2004 22:37 CET Dan Armak wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 23:26, Joshua J. Berry wrote:
> >[...]
> > I really do think this is what /opt was intended for. "Add-on" sounds
> > to me like it's one of those purposefully open-ended words that you can
> > interpret however you like. Actually, the whole section on /opt in the
> > FHS reads that way ...
>
> Well, I simply don't know what they mean by add-on, so obviously you can
> interpret it however you like :-)
>
> However, isn't there -any- consensus on what this is supposed to mean?
> Can we just ask the FHS guys if this is so unclear? (And cf. what Ciaran
> just replied.)
I'll ask Daniel Quinlan what he things when pops online.
But currently each distro does it how the maintainer like it (or interprets
the FHS) -- Gentoo uses /usr/kde, SuSE /opt/kde, RedHat something else, and
I think Debian throws all the stuff into /usr. To me this sounds like the
FHS is flawed if it comes to stuff like this. Even the /usr/X11R6
directory is only there because it was always there though an alternative
is missing, too.
Ironically was there lately a discussion on the KDE core-devel list if the
default location for KDE should be /opt/kde for KDE 4 (instead
of /usr/local).
If something is broken, it's normally the better to fix it instead of
working around. So maybe the FHS should be refined to support what is
needed by either adding an additional subdirectory below /usr or a
completely new root-level directory. I mean it's not like the place in /
is limited by anything and /svc was also added lately (and btw Linux' /sys
is completely against the FHS).
Another thing which cropped up in combination with the macchanger ebuild
(the issue is in b.g.o) was that sometimes shomething like /share
or /lib/share is needed.
The current FHS mailinglist is more a spamtrap than anything. Maybe a new
one should be created. There a group of people consisting of (a) the
previous FHS contributors (b) somebody from each big distro and (c) some
people from the bigger desktop environments (or freedesktop.org) can get
together and try to fix all the current issues with the FHS and create a
version 3.0.
Cheers,
Malte
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-19 19:50 [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? Thomas Weidner
2004-09-19 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-19 20:06 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:16 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:26 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 22:23 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 8:41 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 20:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 21:23 ` Malte S. Stretz [this message]
2004-09-19 23:38 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 8:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 9:47 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:56 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 19:52 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:40 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 18:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:45 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 22:35 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 4:10 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 4:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-20 4:47 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 6:09 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 9:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 15:55 ` Sami Samhuri
2004-09-20 16:22 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:36 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:19 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 17:36 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 22:58 ` foser
2004-09-20 17:42 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 18:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-09-21 11:02 ` Duncan
2004-09-21 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 4:58 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 9:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 7:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Watson
2004-09-19 20:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 2:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Croisant
2004-09-28 8:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 9:24 ` Peter Ruskin
2004-09-28 9:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 20:32 ` John Croisant
2004-09-29 9:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luke-Jr
2004-09-19 23:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Weidner
2004-09-20 0:03 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 0:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-20 3:50 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-21 5:10 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 17:29 ` Helmar Wieland
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