From: "Joshua J. Berry" <condordes@gentoo.org>
To: Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ?
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 13:26:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040919202601.GB13163@deneb.condordes.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200409192316.44996.danarmak@gentoo.org>
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 11:16:44PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Sunday 19 September 2004 23:07, Joshua J. Berry wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 11:06:29PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> > > /usr/qt,kde was my decision at the time. I didn't see any obvious better
> > > FHS-mandated place to put them in. If there's a better place, I'd at
> > > least like to hear about it.
> >
> > Why /usr instead of /opt?
> Quoting FHS 2.3 (http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html):
> "Purpose: /opt is reserved for the installation of add-on application software
> packages."
>
> To this day I haven't heard a good definitin of "add-on" software in this
> context. I don't see qt/kde as being an addon to anything else.
I could easily see KDE/Qt being treated as an "add-on", given that (a) they're
not necessary for core system functionality (whatever that means), and (b) they
are both heavily-bloated, and you probably don't want to pollute /usr...
> Moreover, as Paul points out, in Gentoo we only use /opt so far for
> binary-only packages and for packages that don't obey the general unix
> directory structur (/bin, /lib, /share, /include...). qt/kde has neither of
> these characteristics.
This is true, but I'm wondering if that's maybe a silly move on our part, for
just this reason.
> The FHS says about /usr: "Large software packages must not use a direct
> subdirectory under the /usr hierarchy." I agree this rules out what we're
> doing. The problem is, noone ever proposed a better (more FHS-compliant)
> solution.
I really do think this is what /opt was intended for. "Add-on" sounds to me
like it's one of those purposefully open-ended words that you can interpret
however you like. Actually, the whole section on /opt in the FHS reads that way
...
--
Joshua J. Berry
"I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere."
-- /usr/games/fortune
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-09-19 19:50 [gentoo-dev] any interest in removing /usr/qt and /usr/kde ? Thomas Weidner
2004-09-19 19:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-19 20:06 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:07 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-19 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 20:16 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 20:26 ` Joshua J. Berry [this message]
2004-09-19 20:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-19 22:23 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 8:41 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 20:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-19 21:23 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 23:38 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 8:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 9:47 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:56 ` Armando Di Cianno
2004-09-20 19:52 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 15:40 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 18:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:45 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-19 22:35 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 4:10 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 4:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-09-20 4:47 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 6:09 ` Joshua J. Berry
2004-09-20 9:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 15:55 ` Sami Samhuri
2004-09-20 16:22 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:36 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 16:44 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:19 ` Malte S. Stretz
2004-09-20 17:36 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 22:58 ` foser
2004-09-20 17:42 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 16:37 ` Dan Armak
2004-09-20 17:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-20 18:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 19:17 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 10:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-09-21 11:02 ` Duncan
2004-09-21 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-09-21 4:58 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 9:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-20 7:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Watson
2004-09-19 20:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 2:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " John Croisant
2004-09-28 8:19 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 9:24 ` Peter Ruskin
2004-09-28 9:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-28 20:32 ` John Croisant
2004-09-29 9:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2004-09-19 21:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luke-Jr
2004-09-19 23:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Weidner
2004-09-20 0:03 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-20 0:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-09-20 3:50 ` Luke-Jr
2004-09-21 5:10 ` Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-09-21 17:29 ` Helmar Wieland
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