[gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Lisa Seelye]

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I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).

The things that I would hope to see in such an announcement would be a
suitable upgrade path, reason for change, and a link to gentoo-dev
discussion if available.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:09:55 -0400 Lisa Seelye <lisa@gentoo.org> wrote:
| I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
| attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
| doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).
| 
| The things that I would hope to see in such an announcement would be a
| suitable upgrade path, reason for change, and a link to gentoo-dev
| discussion if available.

For sparc and mips, announcements (and often pre-announcements) are sent
to the gentoo-sparc/gentoo-mips lists. I'd imagine most other archs do
the same.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Lisa Seelye]

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On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:09:55 -0400 Lisa Seelye <lisa@gentoo.org> wrote:
> | I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
> | attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
> | doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).
> | 
> | The things that I would hope to see in such an announcement would be a
> | suitable upgrade path, reason for change, and a link to gentoo-dev
> | discussion if available.
> 
> For sparc and mips, announcements (and often pre-announcements) are sent
> to the gentoo-sparc/gentoo-mips lists. I'd imagine most other archs do
> the same.

Fair enough.  I didn't see any x86 (or any other arch) announce list so
I figured I'd get the ball rolling.

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Lisa Seelye
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Lance Albertson]

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On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 13:33, Lisa Seelye wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:09:55 -0400 Lisa Seelye <lisa@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > | I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
> > | attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
> > | doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).
> > | 
> > | The things that I would hope to see in such an announcement would be a
> > | suitable upgrade path, reason for change, and a link to gentoo-dev
> > | discussion if available.
> > 
> > For sparc and mips, announcements (and often pre-announcements) are sent
> > to the gentoo-sparc/gentoo-mips lists. I'd imagine most other archs do
> > the same.
> 
> Fair enough.  I didn't see any x86 (or any other arch) announce list so
> I figured I'd get the ball rolling.

Is there an gentoo-x86 ML ? I'd think that would be an excellent
addition to our current structure. We already have mailing lists for the
other archs, why not x86? I know that x86 is the biggest user for
Gentoo, but if we need to get out x86 specific stuff, I'd think an x86
ML would be ideal. Thoughts?
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Lance Albertson <ramereth@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Infrastructure

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Ned Ludd]

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On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 22:33, Lance Albertson wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 13:33, Lisa Seelye wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:09:55 -0400 Lisa Seelye <lisa@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > | I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
> > > | attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
> > > | doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).
> > > | 
> > > | The things that I would hope to see in such an announcement would be a
> > > | suitable upgrade path, reason for change, and a link to gentoo-dev
> > > | discussion if available.
> > > 
> > > For sparc and mips, announcements (and often pre-announcements) are sent
> > > to the gentoo-sparc/gentoo-mips lists. I'd imagine most other archs do
> > > the same.
> > 
> > Fair enough.  I didn't see any x86 (or any other arch) announce list so
> > I figured I'd get the ball rolling.
> 
> Is there an gentoo-x86 ML ? I'd think that would be an excellent
> addition to our current structure. We already have mailing lists for the
> other archs, why not x86? I know that x86 is the biggest user for
> Gentoo, but if we need to get out x86 specific stuff, I'd think an x86
> ML would be ideal. Thoughts?

This is a good idea.

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Ned Ludd <solar@gentoo.org>
Gentoo (hardened,security,infrastructure,embedded,toolchain) Developer

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Should significant changes to arch be posted to -announce mail list?

[Kurt Lieber]

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On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 12:09:55PM -0400 or thereabouts, Lisa Seelye wrote:
> I think they should.  Having new blockers come up on an arch box when
> attempting to update is a little worrysome.  Or having a new way of
> doing things (such as the inevitable move to udev in lieu of devfs).

I agree with ciaran.  I don't really care if there's a blocker on mips,
arm, sparc, etc. and I don't want to have to read about those problems.
Similarly, I'm sure sparc users don't care about x86 problems.

In short, let's post arch-specific issues to the appropriate arch list.

--kurt

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