From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25664 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2004 12:30:14 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Aug 2004 12:30:14 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0fru-0008E1-45 for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:30:10 +0000 Received: (qmail 20557 invoked by uid 89); 27 Aug 2004 12:29:53 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 2938 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2004 12:29:53 +0000 From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:29:43 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <200408231653.24708.mattam@gentoo.org> <200408251814.14791.vapier@gentoo.org> <20040826002941.458cb756.spider@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20040826002941.458cb756.spider@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200408271429.43764.pauldv@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New local or global USE flags for sdl bindings: noimage & nomixer X-Archives-Salt: 86f907ba-1a5f-419a-8f92-d74cb3fa681f X-Archives-Hash: 3075f7c174879eed957867345468b024 On Thursday 26 August 2004 00:29, Spider wrote: > However, I like the idea, quite a lot really. It would allow us > developers who really know whats best for the user, even if they insist > on "choices" and all that, to throw out a decent default. We do that > for the whole system, and lets face it. Users shouldn't need to make a > lot of choices just to get decent defaults. Choices come after this. It also would make sense in any case. For example, take the java useflag. In mozilla and other webbrowsers it allows running java plugins (makes a lot of sense). However in for example the sys-libs/db ebuild it will build the java bindings. There is no package depending on those bindings and almost no-one will need them (esp. with the new java based db that is native and faster). Currently however we can't make per package choices so we are in a limbo of enabling or disabling the useflag by default. Of course this has been caused in a big part by useflag overloading where one useflags has different meanings to different packages. I think this way would be a good way to battle it (besides package specific explanation/descriptions) Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list