From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31577 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2004 21:30:34 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Aug 2004 21:30:34 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BzisE-0007lG-5S for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:30:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 8802 invoked by uid 89); 24 Aug 2004 21:30:33 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 6614 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2004 21:30:33 +0000 From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:30:33 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7 References: <20040824141120.GA9931@gentoo.org> <7E61049C-F5ED-11D8-8765-000D93283962@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <7E61049C-F5ED-11D8-8765-000D93283962@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200408242330.33698.pauldv@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Social Contract change & What is "Gentoo" ? X-Archives-Salt: 0784d225-962a-437a-b0a6-64ff16b568b3 X-Archives-Hash: f30feb8c5a3e8e122b896b506fed3203 On Tuesday 24 August 2004 18:48, Pieter Van den Abeele wrote: > On 24 Aug 2004, at 16:11, Sven Vermeulen wrote: > > """ > > We call a collection of software "Gentoo" when: > > - it in total is able to boot itself (self-hosting) > > - it is actively developed by the Gentoo Project > > - its main software management application is a native Portage > > > > With "actively developed" it is meant that: > > - the project has specific development/user channels (mailinglist & > > irc) > > - the project is listed on the Gentoo Projects page [1] > > > > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/index.xml?showlevel=2 > > """ > > A few remarks: > > - Makes no distinction between gentoo projects (such as keychain for > instance), and gentoo operating systems (linux for instance, but not > keychain). > - Self-hosting does not mean being able to boot itself. > (http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Self-hosting) > - Cannot be a secondary package manager != has to be only package > manager > > My rewrite: > > """ > GENTOO > > The collection of: > > - free knowledge such as documentation and metadata about > concepts/domains relevant to operating systems and their components, > created by Gentoo Developers. > - free software developed by Gentoo Developers. > > GENTOO OPERATING SYSTEM: > > A Gentoo Operating System is an operating system that satisfies these > requirements: > > - Self-hosting: The operating system can build itself from scratch > using the tools and metadata distributed as "Gentoo". > > If a product associated with a Gentoo project does not satisfy these > requirements the product does not qualify as a Gentoo Operating System. > > GENTOO PROJECT > > A Gentoo Project is a project listed in the Gentoo Metastructure. > A product associated with a Gentoo Project does not need to qualify as > a Gentoo Operating System for the project to qualify as a Gentoo > Project. > I like this better too. For me a gentoo project is whatever projects are "officially" run by Gentoo. I think this description gives a good implementation of such an abstract notion and the additions make clear what a gentoo os is and how gentoo-macosx is a gentoo project, but not a gentoo operating system. Paul -- Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list