From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3047 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 23:09:55 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 23:09:55 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bpb4z-0005lk-T2 for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:09:54 +0000 Received: (qmail 24063 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2004 23:09:53 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 17797 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 23:09:53 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:07:17 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-Id: <20040728000717.7a610845@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <4106DC03.8080104@kolumbus.fi> References: <200407271254.50020.absinthe@gentoo.org> <200407271526.46575.absinthe@gentoo.org> <20040727210943.29584a5c@snowdrop.home> <200407271637.04014.absinthe@gentoo.org> <20040727223904.524c952f@snowdrop.home> <4106DC03.8080104@kolumbus.fi> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.11claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Wed__28_Jul_2004_00_07_17_+0100_.dQd3naknzs9YPXP" Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug voting X-Archives-Salt: 83706e36-116d-4d93-84b7-5a1d8b94cff0 X-Archives-Hash: a6c57d72560320ffbd4d60835e4ddc6d --Signature=_Wed__28_Jul_2004_00_07_17_+0100_.dQd3naknzs9YPXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:49:39 +0300 Tommi Pirinen wrote: | The main deal with this whole discussion to me as end user seems that | gentoo's bugzilla has gotten very much of the reputation that bugs | just sit there without no one noticing. As you might have noticed this | concern comes up a lot in the user fora and granted, the reason might | be the stupidity of users, but I'm sure it won't go away soon. Most of | the people complaining about it do report at other projects as well, | and from my and their experience other projects do have quite a lot | better response times from bugzilla than gentoo does. Of course this | bug voting wouldn't be much of help to the actual problem, more than | just slowdown for the most eager bug reporters. I've been flamed by a couple of users for not adding a broken gtk-2 file selector patch to gvim. There're several "please add my horridly broken ebuild for this lame package which is full of bugs and unmaintained upstream" bugs which I'd love to close as WONTFIX, but past experience has shown that it's generally easiest to just leave them alone. Closing a bug as WONTFIX really upsets some people, no matter what the reason. If I ignore a bug instead, chances are no-one's gonna know that I'm the person to flame :) | >Good example: the automagic link detection before DHCP feature that | >people keep on wanting in baselayout. Looks nice on the surface, lots | >of people saying "yes please", but suddenly when it's implemented we | >get thousands of users with broken networking because it turns out | >that that nifty link detection feature isn't universally reliable. | > | So it's users' fault that someone implemented and released broken | feature? No no. It's that people keep on submitting patches for a thing which we already know is broken, despite there being existing bugs documenting why it ended up not working. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Sparc, MIPS, Vim, Fluxbox) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Signature=_Wed__28_Jul_2004_00_07_17_+0100_.dQd3naknzs9YPXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBBuAo96zL6DUtXhERAifFAKCV/Kq6VqKI6Uo3KyLP5lojHmTGAACgyVE9 aXvQ7BIjmEJBldN4Y+nZB2c= =nEku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__28_Jul_2004_00_07_17_+0100_.dQd3naknzs9YPXP--