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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug voting
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 23:59:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040727235909.1e2d0755@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407271824.48472.absinthe@gentoo.org>

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:24:48 -0400 Dylan Carlson <absinthe@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| On Tuesday 27 July 2004 5:39 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| > I'd hardly call 30,000 emails and however many forums posts there
| > are"nothing".
| 
| Wasn't it you who called them the "vocal minority"?   

No, I said that that provided strong evidence that we do have a vocal
minority who go around demanding the latest x.x.x.1 releases, spamming
other distributions' IRC channels, using broken kernels and so on.

| Right, a completely isolated case.   As a package maintainer should
| know more than most users.  But ultimately, most bugs (that haven't
| been closed out as INVALID/etc) are either problems with the way
| something works now, or an enhancement request.   You think that votes
| get cast for stupid things?  Do you really think our users are stupid?

I think votes will get cast for trivial cosmetic features (example:
bootsplash) rather than the subtle can-make-your-system-die-horribly
bugs. So, for those kinds of bugs, we'll either have to ignore the
voting (which pretty much defeats the object of having votes at all) or
focus on the 'popular' enhancements at the expense of having a working
system.

| For developers such as yourself, what are you worried about?  Ignore
| the votes and keep working on your buglist like you normally would.  I
| fail to see the problem here.

I am worried that I will see posts saying "why are you ignoring the
several hundred votes on this bug?" on bugs for small cosmetic issues
(example: bootsplash) when there are far more important bugs which don't
attract votes. Although *I* will be ignoring the votes, the voters won't
be.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Sparc, MIPS, Vim, Fluxbox)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-27 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-27 16:54 [gentoo-dev] Bug voting Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 17:21   ` Chris Bainbridge
2004-07-27 17:27   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:39     ` Peter Johanson
2004-07-27 17:54       ` Olivier Crete
2004-07-27 18:20         ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-27 18:41           ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-27 17:59       ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-27 19:31         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-27 18:07     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 18:18       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 18:45         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 19:26           ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 20:09             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 20:23               ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-27 20:29               ` Spider
2004-07-27 20:37               ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 21:39                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 22:24                   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 22:59                     ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2004-07-27 23:12                       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  7:06                         ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-27 22:49                   ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-27 23:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 23:46                       ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-28  6:55                         ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28  7:52                           ` Georgi Georgiev
2004-07-27 23:26                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:41                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:48                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:52                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:02                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-28  0:08                         ` Mike Frysinger
2004-07-28  0:10                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:08                       ` Jon Portnoy
2004-07-28  0:14                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:09                       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  0:21                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:30                           ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 21:06               ` [gentoo-dev] " David Sparks
2004-07-27 23:01             ` Stephen P. Becker
2004-07-28  3:48             ` Kumba
2004-07-27 19:49 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-27 19:53   ` Lance Albertson
     [not found]     ` <4108A16D.9090508@butsugenjitemple.org>
     [not found]       ` <4108ECA5.1020102@gentoo.org>
     [not found]         ` <4108F3A5.1000505@butsugenjitemple.org>
2004-07-29 13:11           ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-29 15:14             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-29 17:50               ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30  2:41                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-30  4:00                   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30 11:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-08-06 10:09   ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2004-07-27 20:09 ` [gentoo-dev] Bug voting++ Frank van de Pol
2004-07-27 21:09   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  0:26 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug voting Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-28  2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Gardiner
2004-07-28  3:11   ` Robin H. Johnson
2004-07-28  6:55     ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28 14:12     ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 23:58       ` [gentoo-dev] " Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-29  0:38         ` Dylan Carlson
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2004-07-27 18:17 [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring

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