From: Dylan Carlson <absinthe@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug voting
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:26:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407271526.46575.absinthe@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040727194515.5d3799f1@snowdrop.home>
On Tuesday 27 July 2004 2:45 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Those are assumptions based upon a very large amount of evidence
So you admit that they are assumptions, based on anecdotal evidence.
> No, I'm saying it's an indicator which already exists if someone wants
> to find out how popular their bug might be, nothing more. However, Cc:
> list spamming is pretty pointless, whereas vote spamming could be
> construed to mean something.
Funny, that's the idea. It's not spamming if you have a finite amount of
votes. People can spend them any way they choose. If you spend your
votes on enhancement requests to app-misc/hello-kitty, that's your choice.
What ultimately matters is the sum of all user votes. It's safe to say the
top-10 most voted list would be something we should consider paying more
attention to.
> | I frankly don't understand why you're so outspoken on this issue. You
> | can ignore votes if that's what you choose to do. This is not a
> | policy change proposal, this is an enhancement request for Bugzilla.
>
> 1) Because it will lead to "this bug has over a hundred votes, why is
> it being ignored?" posts.
And would such posts be unreasonable? I don't think so. If a bug has a
large # of votes relative to everything else, and it IS being ignored,
it's a valid question.
> 2) Because it is yet another field in bugzilla. We already have far too
> many clicky boxes for most people.
We have a wizard bug reporting interface which does not change as a result
of bug voting. At most the bug page will show the # of votes, and will
add one more link at the bottom to vote for the bug. Big deal.
Keep reaching.
> 3) Because it will lead to vote spamming. Search the Off The Wall forum
> for "portage ignorance" for a good example of why this won't work.
Hmm, voting seems to work pretty well for KDE and Mozilla, among others.
And it's a trivial change, which again, you seem to be reaching for
reasons to shoot holes through. If it doesn't work out, we turn votes
off, it's as simple as that.
> | Also please read: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/16.19.shtml
>
> Posting irrelevant links does not make an argument.
It's not irrelevant, if you actually take a minute to read it instead of
posting more FUD against bugzilla voting.
Cheers,
Dylan Carlson [absinthe@gentoo.org]
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2004-07-27 16:54 [gentoo-dev] Bug voting Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 17:21 ` Chris Bainbridge
2004-07-27 17:27 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:39 ` Peter Johanson
2004-07-27 17:54 ` Olivier Crete
2004-07-27 18:20 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-27 18:41 ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-27 17:59 ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-27 19:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-27 18:07 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 18:18 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 18:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 19:26 ` Dylan Carlson [this message]
2004-07-27 20:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 20:23 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-27 20:29 ` Spider
2004-07-27 20:37 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 21:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 22:24 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 22:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 23:12 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 7:06 ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-27 22:49 ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-27 23:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 23:46 ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-28 6:55 ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28 7:52 ` Georgi Georgiev
2004-07-27 23:26 ` [gentoo-dev] " Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:41 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:48 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:52 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28 0:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-28 0:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2004-07-28 0:10 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28 0:08 ` Jon Portnoy
2004-07-28 0:14 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28 0:09 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 0:21 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28 0:30 ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 21:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " David Sparks
2004-07-27 23:01 ` Stephen P. Becker
2004-07-28 3:48 ` Kumba
2004-07-27 19:49 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-27 19:53 ` Lance Albertson
[not found] ` <4108A16D.9090508@butsugenjitemple.org>
[not found] ` <4108ECA5.1020102@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <4108F3A5.1000505@butsugenjitemple.org>
2004-07-29 13:11 ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-29 15:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-29 17:50 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30 2:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-30 4:00 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30 11:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-08-06 10:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2004-07-27 20:09 ` [gentoo-dev] Bug voting++ Frank van de Pol
2004-07-27 21:09 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 0:26 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug voting Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-28 2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Gardiner
2004-07-28 3:11 ` Robin H. Johnson
2004-07-28 6:55 ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28 14:12 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 23:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-29 0:38 ` Dylan Carlson
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2004-07-27 18:17 [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
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