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From: Dylan Carlson <absinthe@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug voting
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:26:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407271526.46575.absinthe@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040727194515.5d3799f1@snowdrop.home>

On Tuesday 27 July 2004 2:45 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> Those are assumptions based upon a very large amount of evidence

So you admit that they are assumptions, based on anecdotal evidence.

> No, I'm saying it's an indicator which already exists if someone wants
> to find out how popular their bug might be, nothing more. However, Cc:
> list spamming is pretty pointless, whereas vote spamming could be
> construed to mean something.

Funny, that's the idea.  It's not spamming if you have a finite amount of 
votes.  People can spend them any way they choose.  If you spend your 
votes on enhancement requests to app-misc/hello-kitty, that's your choice.

What ultimately matters is the sum of all user votes.  It's safe to say the 
top-10 most voted list would be something we should consider paying more 
attention to.

> | I frankly don't understand why you're so outspoken on this issue.  You
> | can ignore votes if that's what you choose to do.  This is not a
> | policy change proposal, this is an enhancement request for Bugzilla.
>
> 1) Because it will lead to "this bug has over a hundred votes, why is
> it being ignored?" posts.

And would such posts be unreasonable?  I don't think so.  If a bug has a 
large # of votes relative to everything else, and it IS being ignored, 
it's a valid question.

> 2) Because it is yet another field in bugzilla. We already have far too
> many clicky boxes for most people.

We have a wizard bug reporting interface which does not change as a result 
of bug voting.  At most the bug page will show the # of votes, and will 
add one more link at the bottom to vote for the bug.  Big deal.

Keep reaching.

> 3) Because it will lead to vote spamming. Search the Off The Wall forum
> for "portage ignorance" for a good example of why this won't work.

Hmm, voting seems to work pretty well for KDE and Mozilla, among others.  
And it's a trivial change, which again, you seem to be reaching for 
reasons to shoot holes through.  If it doesn't work out, we turn votes 
off, it's as simple as that.

> | Also please read: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/16.19.shtml
>
> Posting irrelevant links does not make an argument.

It's not irrelevant, if you actually take a minute to read it instead of 
posting more FUD against bugzilla voting.

Cheers,
Dylan Carlson [absinthe@gentoo.org]
Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x708E165F

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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-27 16:54 [gentoo-dev] Bug voting Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 17:21   ` Chris Bainbridge
2004-07-27 17:27   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 17:39     ` Peter Johanson
2004-07-27 17:54       ` Olivier Crete
2004-07-27 18:20         ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-27 18:41           ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-27 17:59       ` Jason Rhinelander
2004-07-27 19:31         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-27 18:07     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 18:18       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 18:45         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 19:26           ` Dylan Carlson [this message]
2004-07-27 20:09             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 20:23               ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-27 20:29               ` Spider
2004-07-27 20:37               ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 21:39                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 22:24                   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-27 22:59                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 23:12                       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  7:06                         ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-27 22:49                   ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-27 23:07                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-27 23:46                       ` Tommi Pirinen
2004-07-28  6:55                         ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28  7:52                           ` Georgi Georgiev
2004-07-27 23:26                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:41                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:48                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 23:52                     ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:02                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-28  0:08                         ` Mike Frysinger
2004-07-28  0:10                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:08                       ` Jon Portnoy
2004-07-28  0:14                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:09                       ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  0:21                         ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-28  0:30                           ` Gabriel Ebner
2004-07-27 21:06               ` [gentoo-dev] " David Sparks
2004-07-27 23:01             ` Stephen P. Becker
2004-07-28  3:48             ` Kumba
2004-07-27 19:49 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-27 19:53   ` Lance Albertson
     [not found]     ` <4108A16D.9090508@butsugenjitemple.org>
     [not found]       ` <4108ECA5.1020102@gentoo.org>
     [not found]         ` <4108F3A5.1000505@butsugenjitemple.org>
2004-07-29 13:11           ` Lance Albertson
2004-07-29 15:14             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-29 17:50               ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30  2:41                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-30  4:00                   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-30 11:05                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-08-06 10:09   ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2004-07-27 20:09 ` [gentoo-dev] Bug voting++ Frank van de Pol
2004-07-27 21:09   ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28  0:26 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug voting Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-28  2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Gardiner
2004-07-28  3:11   ` Robin H. Johnson
2004-07-28  6:55     ` Tom Wesley
2004-07-28 14:12     ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-28 23:58       ` [gentoo-dev] " Joel Konkle-Parker
2004-07-29  0:38         ` Dylan Carlson
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2004-07-27 18:17 [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring

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