From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17313 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 22:55:47 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 21 Jul 2004 22:55:47 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BnQ02-0004H3-1X for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jul 2004 22:55:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 9076 invoked by uid 89); 21 Jul 2004 22:55:45 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 10155 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2004 22:55:45 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:55:40 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Message-Id: <20040722005540.69891157@sven.genone.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <200407212032.59857.stuart@gentoo.org> References: <20040721163435.7F10B3F03@latitude.mynet.no-ip.org> <200407212032.59857.stuart@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Linux X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: H@&[wkk?l:Zx:8i_5bViK&{Vz{c{~r),^&:v/r#+X5dmfA6qCl)~'Ul{"&06Q1[05.%v&c>je5R{=xLnx^=~lN~rO0xuR~~NY)CX\"Nc4$9CBPwDl-.pYuVeGdir86L@\:j?7@%Ej2?Wi-Y0=1]T14ce0w79Bckk[*ti{;iA"{;I}&E~.msRBsBS)N!CS4Gd|_UR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__22_Jul_2004_00_55_40_+0200_RVQeO6fFZFP1GbK/" X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:7e6c91d1b14dbccceb2f2166522fa0f6 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting GLEP 19 X-Archives-Salt: 3315aaad-4c10-4fa4-b72e-6de108b6e6ca X-Archives-Hash: de11733fb58c3aa26f74dc323da4a8dc --Signature=_Thu__22_Jul_2004_00_55_40_+0200_RVQeO6fFZFP1GbK/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/21/04 Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2004 17:34, aeriksson@fastmail.fm wrote: > > > Two things. First off, I'd hope to achieve a lot more than just > > > adding a[S] entry to emerge -pv. > > > > Care to elaborate? "It's nifty for the future" is a bad argument. > > Far too many times have I came across people who thinks all problems > > goes away if the solution is implemented using xml (I'm NOT saying > > you're one of them). Present the problems you want to fix, and we'll > > discuss them. > > Let's deal with the XML vs plain text argument first. > > I'm not an XML-everywhere person, but I do believe that XML is *the* > right technology when you want to add meaning to structured data - > meaning that can be re-used in software tools. It's nowhere near as > difficult to use as ASN.1, not as clumbsy as the plain-text markups in > common-use, and if you do read the raw XML in a text editor, most > people can follow what the file says. I'm not completely opposed to XML although I see little use here, but I see the big show stopper: Transition. We have a live tree as well as a dozen tools (estimated) using the Changelogs, some of them aren't even under our control (gentoo-portage.com and porthole are popular examples). How do you plan to change the format in such an environment? Without an answer to that question the whole issue is academic. Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. --Signature=_Thu__22_Jul_2004_00_55_40_+0200_RVQeO6fFZFP1GbK/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/vRwWzrL1pM7SNcRAiioAKCEvB0NWz5z83aX+HuqExTFpxmyLwCfe1io VcoTnVuEr7IIX3gi6VjiB0Y= =vs5g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__22_Jul_2004_00_55_40_+0200_RVQeO6fFZFP1GbK/--